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[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Honu

Try watching it without your head tilted.

Now, I will be nice....but that was a big fat fastball. Please don't throw me any more of those. I just don't think I can resist again.

I'm weak that way.

[Payson Dave]

lol

[Honu]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Now, I will be nice....but that was a big fat fastball. Please don't throw me any more of those. I just don't think I can resist again.

I'm weak that way.

LOL ok man , just watched it again , notice her head being tilted out rounding the first turn( the shadow on the track gives it some definition) , she does line out down the backside but you see Borel at the half reach up and get another hold , again her head is tipped out , he gets another hold when she changes leads and never attepmts to go right handed he pulls his stick thru and goes to the left handed bat after he passes the horse on the lead. Maybe she was lugging because he was holding her so hard either way she was still lugging in.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Honu

LOL ok man , just watched it again , notice her head being tilted out rounding the first turn( the shadow on the track gives it some definition) , she does line out down the backside but you see Borel at the half reach up and get another hold , again her head is tipped out , he gets another hold when she changes leads and never attepmts to go right handed he pulls his stick thru and goes to the left handed bat after he passes the horse on the lead. Maybe she was lugging because he was holding her so hard either way she was still lugging in.

I think we need to see the head-on. I also wonder if she wasn't a little unhappy being ( sort of ) pinned down inside another horse in the stretch.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I think we need to see the head-on. I also wonder if she wasn't a little unhappy being ( sort of ) pinned down inside another horse in the stretch.

Could be a combination of stuff , didnt like being held so hard the first part , maybe she is doing this crap in the mornings trying to get away from the exericise rider , maybe Assman was handed a golden goose last year and doesnt know all of her lil habits yet .
Either way Z ran her race with no excuses , she ran against the same crap horses as R.A. did today and got in trouble and still showed her stuff , the classier mare got her picture taken today.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Honu

the classier mare got her picture taken today.

Now I need a drink.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Now I need a drink.

Ill share my Malbec with you , CHEERS!!!!!!!!!

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Malbec? What year?

2000 , I really like the Argentine wines , my better half's uncle lives in San Yasidro he says they serve Malbec as a table wine , I told him Id be right over .

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Now I need a drink.

I was going to comment on that statement too.... but sometimes ya just can't win .a senseless point by using common sense...lol

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Cardus

You really think that the trainer doesn't know all of her ill habits yet? (If she even has "ill habits.") That doesn't make sense. He has had her in his barn for about 10 months now.

Ok Im wrong then . I can admit it .

[Honu]

Hey Cardus maybe what Im saying is that she is getting away with some stuff in the mornings , maybe Assman know's it but doesnt know what to do to correct it . I do know she is really strong to gallop and it wouldnt be beyond belief that if the gallop boy is just riding her in a d bit that he might be cocking her head to cheat her around the track so she doesnt run off . Maybe I read to much into stuff , but from years of experiance I can tell you she shouldnt be running along with her head tipped one way or the other .

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Honu

LOL ok man , just watched it again , notice her head being tilted out rounding the first turn( the shadow on the track gives it some definition) , she does line out down the backside but you see Borel at the half reach up and get another hold , again her head is tipped out , he gets another hold when she changes leads and never attepmts to go right handed he pulls his stick thru and goes to the left handed bat after he passes the horse on the lead. Maybe she was lugging because he was holding her so hard either way she was still lugging in.

I did see this during the running, but that wasn't surprising- I figured her to be eager off the layoff.

Zenyatta didn't run her best today either, but thankfully didn't run into any good horses. She did a good job just finding a way to win anyways.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by philcski

I did see this during the running, but that wasn't surprising- I figured her to be eager off the layoff.

Zenyatta didn't run her best today either, but thankfully didn't run into any good horses. She did a good job just finding a way to win anyways.

Z didnt have much pace no excuse tho she did what she had to even tho she only won by a length ......otherhand R.A. is the pace and was sitting behind very slow fractions for her , maybe holding her back made her even shorter than she was but still I expected more I guess . On to Hot Springs , and we will see who does what , will be interesting to see who goes for the 500k for third.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Honu

Z didnt have much pace no excuse tho she did what she had to even tho she only won by a length ......otherhand R.A. is the pace and was sitting behind very slow fractions for her , maybe holding her back made her even shorter than she was but still I expected more I guess . On to Hot Springs , and we will see who does what , will be interesting to see who goes for the 500k for third.

Not sure how much you'd factor it into things, but if I recall correctly, they were running into a significant headwind on the backstretch, so maybe not quite as slow as it seemed.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Not sure how much you'd factor it into things, but if I recall correctly, they were running into a significant headwind on the backstretch, so maybe not quite as slow as it seemed.

Ok , I didnt know there was a head wind and so there ya go.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Honu

Ok , I didnt know there was a head wind and so there ya go.

Older allowance males went :49.0 and 1:13.3 a few races earlier.

But the final time wound up pretty close...pace may have been a bit more taxing than it seems on paper.

But I'm fried after today, so I don't even know what to make of all that, or if I'm making an important point or not