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Old 02-11-2010, 09:57 PM
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The only leverage in the NBA when it comes to trades is money. of course you knew that.

Why doesn't everybody's superstar lobby for Jamison? Who else needs a guy like him? Orlando? No. Boston? No. The Lakers? No. Denver? No. They already have players that have a similar game to Jamison. You act like LeBron is running a telethon to raise funds to find a cure. Where are you seeing all this lobbying?
Boston couldnt use Jamison? Sure they could. As could Orlando. Lakers are set. Denver couldnt use a 6-9 forward that can shoot threes, rebound and score in the low post? He wouldnt help atlanta? Get real.

I don't understand your initial statement about leverage and money. Can you clarify?
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:07 PM
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Boston couldnt use Jamison? Sure they could. As could Orlando. Lakers are set. Denver couldnt use a 6-9 forward that can shoot threes, rebound and score in the low post? He wouldnt help atlanta? Get real.

I don't understand your initial statement about leverage and money. Can you clarify?
Boston needs another aging, power forward making lots of money? What KG and Rasheed arent enough?
Orlando needs another perimeter player? Dont Vince carter and Lewis take enough jumpshots for ya?
Denver? How does he fit in the rotation with Martin, nene, carmello and Birdman?
Atlanta? You think Atlanta is going to add that kind of salary for a guy who is not a difference maker?

You seemingly dont realize that none of these teams have a need that jamison is worth trading for. The guy is old, makes a lot of money and you are stuck with him after this season. Cleveland is the only team that absolutely needs a player of his skill set and would be willing to spend the money.
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:11 PM
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Boston needs another aging, power forward making lots of money? What KG and Rasheed arent enough?
Orlando needs another perimeter player? Dont Vince carter and Lewis take enough jumpshots for ya?
Denver? How does he fit in the rotation with Martin, nene, carmello and Birdman?
Atlanta? You think Atlanta is going to add that kind of salary for a guy who is not a difference maker?

You seemingly dont realize that none of these teams have a need that jamison is worth trading for. The guy is old, makes a lot of money and you are stuck with him after this season. Cleveland is the only team that absolutely needs a player of his skill set and would be willing to spend the money.
You said it. Thank you. Case closed.

Now what were you saying about money and leverage?
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:19 PM
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You said it. Thank you. Case closed.

Now what were you saying about money and leverage?
Case closed? The Lakers absolutely needed a guy to run the point for them. Think if Jason Kidd was available for an expiring contract Kobe wouldn't have been all over that? does that mean they arent good enough?

Cleveland has the leverage simply because there are no other teams that have a need for a player with Jamisons skills that have any incentive to add salary. Perhaps Dallas because they may make a move just to do something but who else is there? Supply and Demand. There isnt much demand.
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:25 PM
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Case closed? The Lakers absolutely needed a guy to run the point for them. Think if Jason Kidd was available for an expiring contract Kobe wouldn't have been all over that? does that mean they arent good enough?

Cleveland has the leverage simply because there are no other teams that have a need for a player with Jamisons skills that have any incentive to add salary. Perhaps Dallas because they may make a move just to do something but who else is there? Supply and Demand. There isnt much demand.
Houston wants him too. a lot of teams want him but the wiz want too much.

The Lakers would NOT trade for Jason Kidd right now. Too much risk of chemistry issues at this point. Maybe if he were available in the offseason they might have bit but not now. Don't be silly.
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:38 PM
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Houston wants him too. a lot of teams want him but the wiz want too much.

The Lakers would NOT trade for Jason Kidd right now. Too much risk of chemistry issues at this point. Maybe if he were available in the offseason they might have bit but not now. Don't be silly.
Houston? Why would they add salary for Jamison? Other than to get rid of TMac?

Chemistry? The lakers would take Kidd right now in a heartbeat. There is no risk. What is Shannon Brown or Derek Fisher gonna get mad?
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:45 PM
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Houston? Why would they add salary for Jamison? Other than to get rid of TMac?

Chemistry? The lakers would take Kidd right now in a heartbeat. There is no risk. What is Shannon Brown or Derek Fisher gonna get mad?
Chemistry on the court. The lakers are the prohibitive favorite and adding a point guard midseason that has never played in the triangle isnt smart. Adding another player that needs the ball isnt smart. I know Kidd isnt selfish but he still needs to the ball to be effective and the triangle isnt the easiest offense to learn.

The Lakers are riding high and arent going to add another point guard to the mix even if they could get him for free.
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My thoughts on NBA midseason:

They still play professional basketball?

Snore.
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The Celtics aren't contending for anything without wholesale changes. They've blown 11 double-digit leads since Christmas. That seems impossible. I wouldn't mind seeing both Ray and Rasheed go, though I doubt anybody other than Charlotte would take Sheed. You're wrong about Rondo's jumper though, it's gotten much better this season, and this is from someone who was skeptical if it would ever improve.
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Old 02-12-2010, 09:10 AM
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The Celtics aren't contending for anything without wholesale changes. They've blown 11 double-digit leads since Christmas. That seems impossible. I wouldn't mind seeing both Ray and Rasheed go, though I doubt anybody other than Charlotte would take Sheed. You're wrong about Rondo's jumper though, it's gotten much better this season, and this is from someone who was skeptical if it would ever improve.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/player...?playerId=3026

Rondo is shooting 25% from the 3 pt line this year which is WORSE than the 26% he has shot for his career. You do have a point in the sense that he has a more consistent midrange game. He can now hit a 15 ft jump shot...sometimes. He still can't hit a wide open three.

I guess you could get something for Ray Allen's expiring contract. What though?
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