Why No Big Race Today at Belmont

Originally Posted by Exceller

Kentucky has the Oaks, Pimlico the Pimlico Special, and Belmont gives us some garbage stakes race. NYRA couldn't do any better than this?

Exceller, this is dumb. NYRA used to run the Acorn on the day before, a grade one. But they moved that to the big day this year and i like it. WHo cares about the day before? They have 3 grade one's and a grade 2 tomorrow. They just werent drawing much of a crowd the day before, so they moved the Acorn. By the way, one of those "garbage stakes races" is a grade three stakes race, the Hill Prince. The first time you win a graded stakes race with one of your horses, you will be proud as hell and crowing. So I don't really think calling a grade three race garbage is quite accurate.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Exceller, this is dumb. NYRA used to run the Acorn on the day before, a grade one. But they moved that to the big day this year and i like it. WHo cares about the day before? They have 3 grade one's and a grade 2 tomorrow. They just werent drawing much of a crowd the day before, so they moved the Acorn. By the way, one of those "garbage stakes races" is a grade three stakes race, the Hill Prince. The first time you win a graded stakes race with one of your horses, you will be proud as hell and crowing. So I don't really think calling a grade three race garbage is quite accurate.

Sure Kentucky Oaks, Pimlico Special and.... the Hill Prince? They don't get a crowd there because they are not good at marketing. It is NY, they can't come up with a marketing plan and a real stakes race? How about bringing in a big name band and putting a Stakes race for older horses in there. Tie it into a Friday Mets game or something. NYRA is clueless compared to the two big groups that run Churchill and Pimlico. Pimlico is a terrible track and they still pack them in on Friday before the Preakness.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Exceller

Sure Kentucky Oaks, Pimlico Special and.... the Hill Prince? They don't get a crowd there because they are not good at marketing. It is NY, they can't come up with a marketing plan and a real stakes race? How about bringing in a big name band and putting a Stakes race for older horses in there. Tie it into a Friday Mets game or something. NYRA is clueless compared to the two big groups that run Churchill and Pimlico. Pimlico is a terrible track and they still pack them in on Friday before the Preakness.

Pimlico is different in that (normally), the Kentucky Derby winner is contending for another win and a chance at the triple crown. Once the Preakness is done, the amount of people at Belmont will be largely determined on whether or not we have a triple crown contender.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Pimlico is different in that (normally), the Kentucky Derby winner is contending for another win and a chance at the triple crown. Once the Preakness is done, the amount of people at Belmont will be largely determined on whether or not we have a triple crown contender.

Not sure what your point is. If Barbaro was going for the triple crown the friday stakes race would still be the Hill Prince. That Friday is poorly marketed. They didn't get anyone there even when a TC was on the line.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Exceller

Not sure what your point is. If Barbaro was going for the triple crown the friday stakes race would still be the Hill Prince. That Friday is poorly marketed. They didn't get anyone there even when a TC was on the line.

My point is... people don't come to Pimlico on Friday because of the special... they come to be around the hype. If there were hype this year, it wouldn't matter WHAT was being run today. People would be there.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

My point is... people don't come to Pimlico on Friday because of the special... they come to be around the hype. If there were hype this year, it wouldn't matter WHAT was being run today. People would be there.

Not true. The Friday in NY never amounted to anything and the hype for the last leg of the TC is much bigger if a horse has 2 of the 3 already won. NYRA just makes zero effort. That is why they are losing their franchise.

Originally Posted by Exceller

Not true. The Friday in NY never amounted to anything and the hype for the last leg of the TC is much bigger if a horse has 2 of the 3 already won. NYRA just makes zero effort. That is why they are losing their franchise.

Stronach has virtually no chnace of getting the franchise.
Do you know a lot about NYRA? have you researched it yourself? Or are you just listening to someone supporting the Empire group? I'm wondering how much time you have spent around NYRA tracks and how you formed the opinion on them. What are your thoughts on what they have done wrong or right? Your thoughts.

Originally Posted by Exceller

Sure Kentucky Oaks, Pimlico Special and.... the Hill Prince? They don't get a crowd there because they are not good at marketing. It is NY, they can't come up with a marketing plan and a real stakes race? How about bringing in a big name band and putting a Stakes race for older horses in there. Tie it into a Friday Mets game or something. NYRA is clueless compared to the two big groups that run Churchill and Pimlico. Pimlico is a terrible track and they still pack them in on Friday before the Preakness.

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeah ok, wanna compare the meet longhandle at belmont with CD's? Or Pimlico? Give me a break, NYRA runs a great product for months, the other two for 2-3 days. Wanan check out handle on the three meets this year and compare numbers when they are done.
M/L odds on highets handle for meet
Belmont 1-9
CD 100-1
Pimlico- 1000000000000000-1

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by oracle80

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yeah ok, wanna compare the meet longhandle at belmont with CD's? Or Pimlico? Give me a break, NYRA runs a great product for months, the other two for 2-3 days. Wanan check out handle on the three meets this year and compare numbers when they are done.
M/L odds on highets handle for meet
Belmont 1-9
CD 100-1
Pimlico- 1000000000000000-1

NYRA is on the way out. Stronach will own it in a few years and then you will see how to market. Too much corruption caught up with NYRA. You can only buy off politicians for so long.