Trainers Love the New Track at Hollywood

[repent]

Originally Posted by GPK

LOL...Repent is back. Good to see you bro.

Kev

hey what up Kev.


good to see you.

who is this DaHoss guy?
wanting to run up and feed a horse carrot is not an essential desire one must have to like and appreciate the sport of horse racing.
whatever..

hey Kev,
this is as good of place as any to tell you that you were completely right and I totally wrong about English Channel.
what a racehorse.
he is America's best turf horse.

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[GPK]

Originally Posted by repent

hey what up Kev.


good to see you.

who is this DaHoss guy?
wanting to run up and feed a horse carrot is not an essential desire one must have to like and appreciate the sport of horse racing.
whatever..

hey Kev,
this is as good of place as any to tell you that you were completely right and I totally wrong about English Channel.
what a racehorse.
he is America's best turf horse.

Repent

Well....I am normally good for being right about one or two things a year.

He has turned into a very good racehorse...

I trust things are well for you?

[repent]

Originally Posted by GPK

Well....I am normally good for being right about one or two things a year.

He has turned into a very good racehorse...

I trust things are well for you?

yeah,
things are good.
back in TX now.

working a lot but at least I closer to friends and family than I was before.
besides the Astros sucking, things are pretty good.


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[GPK]

Originally Posted by repent

yeah,
things are good.
back in TX now.

working a lot but at least I closer to friends and family than I was before.
besides the Astros sucking, things are pretty good.


Repent

Good to hear. Glad to have you on board. Will talk again soon....bed time for me.

Not sure if you caught the QEII today, but GW looked awfully good

[repent]

Originally Posted by GPK

Good to hear. Glad to have you on board. Will talk again soon....bed time for me.

Not sure if you caught the QEII today, but GW looked awfully good

yeah,
i know he did.
I was wrong again.
Librettist is a favorite of mine.
Although I do have respect for GW, if they meet again in the BCM, I think we get the better of him.
but thats just me very biased opinion.

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[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GPK

Well....I am normally good for being right about one or two things a year.

He has turned into a very good racehorse...

I trust things are well for you?

Kev, You and I are both fans of English Channel. As you know, I tried to buy him before anyone had heard of him. I tried to buy him back when he was only an allowance horse. Even though we are both fans of the horse, you know as well as I do that he's not the best turf horse in the country. He just ran 4th in two of his last three races. He didn't have any real excuse in either race. He would have obviously liked a little more pace in his last race but you can't use that as an excuse because he was actually losing ground in the stretch. As big a fan as youa re of the horse, I'm sure you would be the first to admit that he's not the best turf horse in the country right now.

[repent]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Kev, You and I are both fans of English Channel. As you know, I tried to buy him before anyone had heard of him. I tried to buy him back when he was only an allowance horse. Even though we are both fans of the horse, you know as well as I do that he's not the best turf horse in the country. He just ran 4th in two of his last three races. He didn't have any real excuse in either race. He would have obviously liked a little more pace in his last race but you can't use that as an excuse because he was actually losing ground in the stretch. As big a fan as youa re of the horse, I'm sure you would be the first to admit that he's not the best turf horse in the country right now.

oh,
so you throw out the Woodforf Reserve and UN?
wtf are you thinking?
on firm ground, he is the best 12f US turf horse.
Cacique is a really nice horse and might be better on both of Belmont's turf courses, but EC has the better chance to win at 12f at CD.


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[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by repent

oh,
so you throw out the Woodforf Reserve and UN?
wtf are you thinking?
on firm ground, he is the best 12f US turf horse.
Cacique is a really nice horse and might be better on both of Belmont's turf courses, but EC has the better chance to win at 12f at CD.


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I'm not throwing out those races but if he's so great he wouldn't be running 4th every other race. You can hardly use the excuse about firm ground. EC's record is better when the turf is not firm. His win in that $400,000 race at Churchill in May was on turf labeled "soft". His win in the stakes race at Gulfstream this year was on turf labeled "soft". Last year, he won three races on tracks labeled either "good" or "yielding". His record on turf courses labeled "firm" is not nearly as good.

[Danzig]

but weren't both of english channels losses at 10f? remember sulamani in the arl million a couple years back? class of the field, but the distance was far from his best. three horses finished ahead of him i believe.

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I'm not throwing out those races but if he's so great he wouldn't be running 4th every other race. You can hardly use the excuse about firm ground. EC's record is better when the turf is not firm. His win in that $400,000 race at Churchill in May was on turf labeled "soft". His win in the stakes race at Gulfstream this year was on turf labeled "soft". Last year, he won three races on tracks labeled either "good" or "yielding". His record on turf courses labeled "firm" is not nearly as good.

you misunderstand me again.
I did not say he needed or was better on firm.

I said, in those conditions, he is America's best turf horse.
freaking read what I type w/out reading into it what you want.

and that 4th in the Manhattan was a very good effort.
all 4 finished together.

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[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by repent

you misunderstand me again.
I did not say he needed or was better on firm.

I said, in those conditions, he is America's best turf horse.
freaking read what I type w/out reading into it what you want.

and that 4th in the Manhattan was a very good effort.
all 4 finished together.

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How was his 4th place finish in New york a good effort? He lost to Silver Whistle and Sabre d' Argent that day. I don't think that effort would get the job done in the BC Turf.

By the way, the race in Dubai was 1 1/4 miles.

With regard to the Arlington Million, The Tin Man was obviously the best horse. Cacique was within a neck of him at the quarter pole and then Tin Man blew his away. It would be one thing if The Tin Man was out there with a 3 length lead and then barely held off the closers. That's not what happened. He pulled away from them in the stretch. He had a better late kick than the closers. He would have won the race no matter what the pace scenario was.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I like English Channel, a lot. But it depends on how you look at it. I guess since Aragorn and Cacique were originally Euro's he could be considered our best. But, if you think of Cacique and Aragorn as Americans now, EC is 3rd at best. No way EC beats Aragorn in a mile to 1 1/8 race, and after his last I really think Cacique has turned the corner. Cacique hasn't thrown in a clunker like EC has.

He's not as good as The Tin Man right now. Look at what The Tin Man has done this year. He's 4 for 5 with a win in the Arlingto Million and a 2nd to David Junior in a $5 million race. You can't even compare EC to the The Tin Man right now.

[repent]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I like English Channel, a lot. But it depends on how you look at it. I guess since Aragorn and Cacique were originally Euro's he could be considered our best. But, if you think of Cacique and Aragorn as Americans now, EC is 3rd at best. No way EC beats Aragorn in a mile to 1 1/8 race, and after his last I really think Cacique has turned the corner. Cacique hasn't thrown in a clunker like EC has.

well,
Aragorn is awesome.
not going to run against EC in the BC, but yes, oif they met at a midde distance of 9f, Aragorn would win.

Cacique is a really nice horse who I really thought was the best middle distance turf horse..
Kev will tell you I always said he was better than EC even after the Woodford Reserve.
but EC's Manhattan was impressive to me (even in defeat) and the UN was awesome.
that made me a believer.


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[repent]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

But if you like, and appreciate something, how do you not care about the parcipitants?

I dont care about their health or well being.
i did not say I dont care about them.
I certainly care about how fast they run and their pari-mutuel wagering price.

another analogy.
i like film.
i like watching Ed Norton or Natalie Portman act on film.
But I dont give a damn about their health, happiness, or general well being in real life.
they can live or die. makes no difference to me.



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[Pointg5]

Maybe I have been a little hard on this Poly track, I saw they ran 1:08 yesterday at Turfway, maybe they are getting it right, but I have to wonder 1:08 is still damn fast and just because it's on Poly, does it still not take as much out of a horse, because it's not on a packed surface...