Top 5 best two-surface horses of the last 20 years

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I just never bought into the hype machine that raged after his Pacific Classic win. Don't get me wrong, he ran great but I think the fact that we saw so little of him has added to the esteem he's held in, especially by people on message boards.

I don't know.

That horse was pretty real.

Had he and Medaglia D' Oro switched trips in the Pacific Classic - and he was the one allowed to make his own pace real nice - I think you could call Candy Ride into question a little bit... as kind of a decorated South American turf horse - who got his one giant number with a candy trip. That's not what happened though.

But yeah - a case can be made that the equally fragile Mazel Trick was a better dirt horse because he had two supreme dirt races instead of one. And who, other than me, ever talks about Mazel Trick?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

But yeah - a case can be made that the equally fragile Mazel Trick was a better dirt horse because he had two supreme dirt races instead of one. And who, other than me, ever talks about Mazel Trick?

Uhm?????

You mean besides me? I don't think most people here ever even saw that horse run.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Uhm?????

You mean besides me? I don't think most people here ever even saw that horse run.

It was only '99... but yeah, he came and went.


Candy Ride worked a mile in 1:35 2/5ths ten days before the Pac Classic. He might have the most freaky work of the decade to go along with arguably the best performance of the decade.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It was only '99... but yeah, he came and went.


Candy Ride worked a mile in 1:35 2/5ths ten days before the Pac Classic. He might have the most freaky work of the decade to go along with arguably the best performance of the decade.

Who was better RocK Hard Ten or Saint Liam? I feel Saint Liam was TERRIBLY OVERATED. Whats your opinion?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Who was better RocK Hard Ten or Saint Liam? I feel Saint Liam was TERRIBLY OVERATED. Whats your opinion?

Rock Hard Ten had the Lava Man syndrome of sucking outside of California. Saint Liam sucked inside of California ... and was pretty damn good everywhere else Dutrow trained him.

That's another tough question - and another one that boils down to how one wants to define "better"

I view horses like Saint Liam and Silver Train the same way some people view Jose Canseco and his brother Ozzie.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I don't know.

That horse was pretty real.

Had he and Medaglia D' Oro switched trips in the Pacific Classic - and he was the one allowed to make his own pace real nice - I think you could call Candy Ride into question a little bit... as kind of a decorated South American turf horse - who got his one giant number with a candy trip. That's not what happened though.

But yeah - a case can be made that the equally fragile Mazel Trick was a better dirt horse because he had two supreme dirt races instead of one. And who, other than me, ever talks about Mazel Trick?

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