Rachel Alexandra's two-turn campaign

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Yeah, I was wondering when the Beldame got switched back to 10f. Didn't see any press releases on that.

I have always thought it was one of the silliest things ever to read that Medaglia d'Oro was vulnerable at 10f. He happened to lose to Pleasantly Perfect in the BC in one of the best efforts you'll see from a horse. He was beaten by Candy Ride while setting a track record for the distance at DM. There's a difference between losing to better horses at a distance than being vulnerable at it. Medaglia d'Oro was probably better at 10f than 90% of all horses that have run it on the dirt in this country since this decade began. Maybe 95%.

I don't get it... so in this case there's no such thing as vulnerable, there's only better horses.

Medaglia d'Oro was a good horse, but he was all-out to hold Repent going 10f who if I remember correctly was coming off a big layoff. Medaglia d'Oro was a good horse, but he certainly didn't excel at 10f, which I suppose makes him vulnerable compared to how he was at 9f, right?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

I don't get it... so in this case there's no such thing as vulnerable, there's only better horses.

Medaglia d'Oro was a good horse, but he was all-out to hold Repent going 10f who if I remember correctly was coming off a big layoff. Medaglia d'Oro was a good horse, but he certainly didn't excel at 10f, which I suppose makes him vulnerable compared to how he was at 9f, right?

He'd have lost to Secretariat, Affirmed, and Spectacular Bid at 9f. Does that mean that he was vulnerable at that distance too? I will say that I don't think he was as good at 10f as he was at 9f but he was still damn good at it. If he's running today, he would be dominating these goats out there and nobody would be suggesting that he is vulnerable at 10f. Timing does a whole lot when it comes to public perception.

[philcski]

Meanwhile, he got beat a head in the Belmont Stakes. But he couldn't go 10F. LOL

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by philcski

Meanwhile, he got beat a head in the Belmont Stakes. But he couldn't go 10F. LOL

Well, yeah!

What makes you think that if he can't get 10, he'd get 12?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He got beat by Sarava .. which might only further undermine things.

I think he was marginally a little better horse at 9fs .. the actual record is misleading though.

Here's who ran 2nd to him in his 7 wins short of 10fs...

* Tallest Timber

* U S S Tinosa

* Quest

* Olmodavor

* Slider

* Volponi (that was the year he went 0-for-8)

* Seattle Fitz


In his final 3 tries at 10fs ... he ran 2nd's with Beyers of 117 and 118 against outstanding horses in Candy Ride and Pleasantly Perfect ... than he missed by less than a length when 2nd in the Dubai World Cup to PP.

In his 9f races - he dined on cupcakes.

If Medaglia D' Oro was around right now ... the current handicap division would be in a world of trouble at any distance.

[Antitrust32]

If Medaglia D'Oro was around right now we wouldnt be able to enjoy Rachel

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Uncle Rico's time machine.

They could race each other.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Uncle Rico's time machine.

They could race each other.

Let me dam this up before someone else draws a parallel to the McKenzie Phillips story.

How much you wanna bet I can throw a football over them mountains?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

If Medaglia D' Oro was around right now ... the current handicap division would be in a world of trouble at any distance.

Since we all know horses just can't run as much as they used to, he'd only manage a start every 4-6 weeks...there are still plently of Grade 1s left for the other horseys!