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Old 09-28-2009, 11:55 AM
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Couldnt one easily make the point that Brady could have put up BETTER numbers over a career than Manning if given the same tools to work with over an extended period of time? Manning, for the majority of his career, was working with a Hall of fame receiver in marvin harrison and an all pro on the other end in reggie wayne.
How do you know Manning isn't the one who made them hall of famers? He doesn't look much different minus Harrison, James, etc. Maybe Pierre Garcon is a hall of famer too?? For a large chunk of the time, I think Brady had a better defense supporting him than Manning did. I don't know who is better, but I don't think you can easily make the point that Brady could have put up better numbers in his career with Manning's tools to work with.
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Old 09-28-2009, 12:06 PM
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I don't think you can easily make the point that Brady could have put up better numbers in his career with Manning's tools to work with.
I think Brady could of ... but the question is more how much better ... and I think the answer is certainly not enough to match Manning.

Obviously, when he got Moss he became the leader of the all-time #1 scoring offense in NFL history ... breaking the points scored record of the '98 Vikings (another Moss team)

I think Manning has had a better hand to play with from an offensive unit standpoint prior to Moss arriving ... but defense is what tends to win the big games .. and Brady has always had the vastly superior defense. At least until recently ... now a lot of Pats greats on defense are retired, or should be retired, or are playing D-line for Oakland.
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Old 09-28-2009, 12:34 PM
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Colts D has been weak in the middle and too reliant on cover 2 for too long. New coordinator is not above a LB or CB blitz once in a while and has added some bulk in the DT positions.
I'll be the first to say Manning has had some lousy playoff games. No real excuse for the SD loss last year. I think that NE had his number/was in his head until that 2006 AFC Championship game and the subsequent Super Bowl win. Now the monkey is off his back and given the choice, I would pick him over Brady (post injury) as my go to QB.

Course I am a homer, so there is that.
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:22 PM
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Hey where's that Favre guy?
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