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Old 08-30-2009, 06:44 PM
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Do you really want to stack what she just beat up against the field in a California race, like the Clement Hirsch?

I'll take Swift Temper, Miss Isella, and a few of those over Anabaa's Creation and Lethal Heat.

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I'd be willing to take her (Icon Project) over Zenyatta....
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Old 08-30-2009, 06:46 PM
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I'd be willing to take her (Icon Project) over Zenyatta....
As long as Marty can check his medicine cabinet on the flight to LA, I'd agree.



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Old 08-30-2009, 06:50 PM
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As long as Marty can check his medicine cabinet on the flight to LA, I'd agree.



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He won't need it - he's got a special set of shoes set aside for the BC.
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Old 08-30-2009, 07:07 PM
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I'd be willing to take her (Icon Project) over Zenyatta....
Agree, at 1 1/4, What would happen if she faced Rachel? Shes clearly a stayer.
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Old 08-30-2009, 07:20 PM
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Agree, at 1 1/4, What would happen if she faced Rachel? Shes clearly a stayer.
icon project wouldn't be getting her picture taken.
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Didnt AllIcansayiswow and Lethal Heat finish a decent 2nd and 3rd against the boys in the Dela Mar Mile? They both faced Zenyatta in the past
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Old 08-30-2009, 07:37 PM
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icon project wouldn't be getting her picture taken.
I think Icon Project would beat Zenyatta on real dirt. Shes really a tigress on the dirt. Wow. She was far closer to the pace than usual today and even ran better. Wow.

Anyone notice that all of the big Grade 1's this summer at Saratoga have been complete blowouts? I cant recall a close finish.
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I think Icon Project would beat Zenyatta on real dirt. Shes really a tigress on the dirt. Wow. She was far closer to the pace than usual today and even ran better. Wow.

Anyone notice that all of the big Grade 1's this summer at Saratoga have been complete blowouts? I cant recall a close finish.
Think back like 27 hours.
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Think back like 27 hours.
Eating Dinner? WTF
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Think back like 27 hours.
It was a Grade 2.
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It was a Grade 2.

OMG....

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It was a Grade 2.
The King's Bishop was not a blowout.

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icon project wouldn't be getting her picture taken.

At 1 1/8 I agree with you. Im not so sure at the Classic Distance.
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At 1 1/8 I agree with you. Im not so sure at the Classic Distance.

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Old 08-30-2009, 09:28 PM
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Thats the response I would expect.
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Old 08-30-2009, 09:29 PM
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Come on Nick. If Castellano doesn't stop the horse from being herded by Garcia by tugging on him righty and then sticking him righty, he never goes by in the lane. That's the affectiveness of herding: a horse gets carried out and goes with the flow.

At some point, Castellano will either kill another jock or himself. The stewards really need to take his **** seriously.

You really think Garcia will be amenable to 'doing the right thing' and allowing another jock to herd his horse after what Castellano did to him yesterday? After what it cost him? Doubtful. There's a protocol these guys follow and Castellano, who herds at will, went against it. I can only hope it's Castellano doing the herding when it happens.
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Come on Nick. If Castellano doesn't stop the horse from being herded by Garcia by tugging on him righty and then sticking him righty, he never goes by in the lane. That's the affectiveness of herding: a horse gets carried out and goes with the flow.

At some point, Castellano will either kill another jock or himself. The stewards really need to take his **** seriously.

You really think Garcia will be amenable to 'doing the right thing' and allowing another jock to herd his horse after what Castellano did to him yesterday? After what it cost him? Doubtful. There's a protocol these guys follow and Castellano, who herds at will, went against it. I can only hope it's Castellano doing the herding when it happens.
I'm not sure I get it, you're blaming Castellano for not allowing Garcia to herd him? When they got inside the eighth pole Garcia knew he had nothing and his only course of action was to try to initiate some contact. He did it- to an excess.

Castellano stayed straight on CCC as Garcia continued to carry him out. The last bump was just the icing on the cake, as the foul had been enough at that point to warrant a DQ.

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Thats the response I would expect. Rachel has yet to go the classic distance, IP is a proven stayer. Who has now run 2 gigantic races.

lol

yeah, that's why everyone is ducking icon project, right? i know every day when i read bloodhorse, trainers are talking about trying to avoid icon project.
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Old 08-30-2009, 09:33 PM
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lol

yeah, that's why everyone is ducking icon project, right? i know every day when i read bloodhorse, trainers are talking about trying to avoid icon project.
Danzig its not the point I was making. IP has now run 2 gigantic races and her other race they crawled up front over a speed favoring track. She is clearly a stayer, she has gone 1 1/2 on turf and ran well, she has freaked at 1 1/8 on dirt and now 1 1/4 on dirt. She has to be considered legit competition.
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