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Old 09-14-2006, 03:57 PM
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Obviously the winner deserved to come down, herded the horse out many paths while making contact, but so was the third race winner, who herded the second horse out even more, yet because there was no contact they didn't even blink the number. By holding his ground, the second finisher was able to draw the contact, and thus justly get put up.

The problem is not the decision....it's the lack of consistency.
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:01 PM
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Obviously the winner deserved to come down, herded the horse out many paths while making contact, but so was the third race winner, who herded the second horse out even more, yet because there was no contact they didn't even blink the number. By holding his ground, the second finisher was able to draw the contact, and thus justly get put up.

The problem is not the decision....it's the lack of consistency.
Thats pretty funny because I just got two phone calls from screaming people(one of whom you know well) who were angrier than I was. Lansdon couldnt believe it.
And I respectfully say bull****. The outside horse was actually coming in on the winner the last 100 yards and making contact. The initial(albeit minor) contact was indeed made by the winner but if you concentrate on the paths of the two horses late you can see that the outside horse indeed was coming in on the winner.
Its bull**** and complete bull**** at that. I can only go and find about 100 replays where far worse occurred and they didn't even give it a look.
The 2nd to last Friday at Saratoga there was an absolute mugfest in the last race(the race that meeses two pieces won) and they didn't even call an inquiry. Guy next to me was absolutely insane with rage wondering how that could be and upon watching the replay to see what he lost his mind over I could see why he lost his mind very clearly.
They stink and inconsistent doesnt even begin to describe it.

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Old 09-14-2006, 04:09 PM
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Was it as bad as the takedown in this year's Black Eyed Susan? That was a joke.
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:12 PM
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Was it as bad as the takedown in this year's Black Eyed Susan? That was a joke.
Different type of bad. But very bad.
I actually wonder sometimes if they even watch the races, I'm serious. I know there is no way that they watched the Meeses two Pieces race.
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:13 PM
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I'll have to catch the replay of today's race.

Seriously, I was mad six hours after Smart N Pretty came down that day. That was home cooking for Ramon, no two ways about it. In fact, four months later, I'm still bitter about it actually.
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:16 PM
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I'll have to catch the replay of today's race.

Seriously, I was mad six hours after Smart N Pretty came down that day. That was home cooking for Ramon, no two ways about it. In fact, four months later, I'm still bitter about it actually.
I only had the exacta because they took Smart N Pretty down so from my eyes it looked like a great decision.
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:18 PM
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I had the opposite. Smart N Pretty on top paid pretty well as an exacta, maybe $100? Anyway, she was so clearly the best that day and it was so clearly obvious that both horses were leaning on eachother, there was no way she should have come down.

I feel oracle's pain.
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:21 PM
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Oracle,

Can you shed some light on how the NYRA and the stewards work? How many are they? Do the same stewards travel to all three tracks? Basically, can you just share some knowledge with me.
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I'll have to catch the replay of today's race.

Seriously, I was mad six hours after Smart N Pretty came down that day. That was home cooking for Ramon, no two ways about it. In fact, four months later, I'm still bitter about it actually.
You should have heard Dale Romans when I got him to come on ATRAB to talk about it on the Monday afterwards.. Utter fury and disgust..
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Old 09-14-2006, 04:46 PM
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You should have heard Dale Romans when I got him to come on ATRAB to talk about it on the Monday afterwards.. Utter fury and disgust..

I remember they had the TV camera in his face after the DQ was announced.. .he did very well keeping a straight face... I'm sure he was cussing up and down on the inside.
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