NBA Playoffs

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Celtics last year were not very impressive either imo.

Really? Garnett and Pierce are hall of fame players and perenial all everything. Ray Allen, although not as good, has had a wonderful career and is still a good player. They had a great mix of young and old and played outstanding defense.

Why weren't they impressive?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Really? Garnett and Pierce are hall of fame players and perenial all everything. Ray Allen, although not as good, has had a wonderful career and is still a good player. They had a great mix of young and old and played outstanding defense.

Why weren't they impressive?

I'm going to guess he's going to say it's because of how Atlanta took them to seven games. That was a shock but after that, they beat a good Cleveland team that had been to the finals the year before and got progressively better in the next round against Detroit and finally against the Lakers. The difference between this Laker team and that Celtic team is that you never got the feeling that the Celtics were fortunate to win games they should have lost. It's sort of like the 1988 Lakers who were extended to seven against Utah in the conference semifinals and also by Dallas in the conference finals but you never got the feeling that they were lucking up to win. Just a good team winning a tight series.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm going to guess he's going to say it's because of how Atlanta took them to seven games. That was a shock but after that, they beat a good Cleveland team that had been to the finals the year before and got progressively better in the next round against Detroit and finally against the Lakers. The difference between this Laker team and that Celtic team is that you never got the feeling that the Celtics were fortunate to win games they should have lost. It's sort of like the 1988 Lakers who were extended to seven against Utah in the conference semifinals and also by Dallas in the conference finals but you never got the feeling that they were lucking up to win. Just a good team winning a tight series.

i agree with this and i actually agree with the argument that this Laker team is probably the worst i have seen besides the 07 spurs team which was really bad. I think this team beats that 07 spurs team hands down.

[dalakhani]

On the great Delonte West:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...minated-090531

"Delonte West, who played well on Saturday, is ideally a first guard off the bench, a tough, skilled player who can man both guard spots. But at just 6-foot-3, he's too small to start at shooting guard, especially next to the 6-1 Williams"

Interesting. Broussard, a respected NBA columnist, views the great delonte west as too small to be a starting 2 guard even for a team that Jerry West said would be a lottery team without Lebron.

LOL. I guess he doesnt know what he is talking about either.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

On the great Delonte West:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...minated-090531

"Delonte West, who played well on Saturday, is ideally a first guard off the bench, a tough, skilled player who can man both guard spots. But at just 6-foot-3, he's too small to start at shooting guard, especially next to the 6-1 Williams"

Interesting. Broussard, a respected NBA columnist, views the great delonte west as too small to be a starting 2 guard even for a team that Jerry West said would be a lottery team without Lebron.

LOL. I guess he doesnt know what he is talking about either.

Yeah this is useful. West had a real tough time guarding Rip Hamilton, Joe Johnson and Turkoglu, all who are much taller than him. Broussard is hardly an expert on anything and he says a lot of stupid stuff. yeah a guy who played 45 minutes a game in the playoffs should be coming off the bench. Cleveland's problem isnt its guards height, it is its lack of a long swing defender outside of Lebron.

[Cannon Shell]

"In not surprised by his success this season because a lot of players prevail in different systems. A guy might not be the same player in another coach's scheme. It's all about the way you're used. He's found a home in Cleveland, and I credit Mike Brown for using Delonte's talent to the best of his ability.

"They didn't utilize him the right way in Seattle. But in Cleveland, he's an X-factor for that team. He gives them toughness, scoring and defense. If you take him off that team, they lose a lot. He's in a situation in Cleveland where he doesn't have to score 20 or 30 points to make a difference. Then again, he's not just an extra player out there on the floor.

"He hits big shots, he knows his role, he puts pressure on the defense and he gets to loose balls. Of course, playing with LeBron changes things because LeBron attracts a lot of attention. He gets double- and triple-teamed, so his teammate
Maurice Evans of the Hawks on West

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

"In not surprised by his success this season because a lot of players prevail in different systems. A guy might not be the same player in another coach's scheme. It's all about the way you're used. He's found a home in Cleveland, and I credit Mike Brown for using Delonte's talent to the best of his ability.

"They didn't utilize him the right way in Seattle. But in Cleveland, he's an X-factor for that team. He gives them toughness, scoring and defense. If you take him off that team, they lose a lot. He's in a situation in Cleveland where he doesn't have to score 20 or 30 points to make a difference. Then again, he's not just an extra player out there on the floor.

"He hits big shots, he knows his role, he puts pressure on the defense and he gets to loose balls. Of course, playing with LeBron changes things because LeBron attracts a lot of attention. He gets double- and triple-teamed, so his teammate
Maurice Evans of the Hawks on West

LOL. Charles barkley and doug collins are idiots. Broussard doesnt know what he is talking about. But suddenly, maurice evans is a genius. LOL Even funnier is that Broussard use to be the cavs beat writer although i think that was before the great delonte came to town.

Try again Chuck. Im still waiting to hear again that Trevor Ariza is a bum and Delonte West is a much better player.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

i agree with this and i actually agree with the argument that this Laker team is probably the worst i have seen besides the 07 spurs team which was really bad. I think this team beats that 07 spurs team hands down.

Of course I dont.
That Spurs team played much better defense
than any of the teams we have seen the past 2years.
Not even close.

The Spurs boring teams are easy to pick on.
They just won games almost every fourth quarter
by playing superior help D. That D is now very old,
very slow, and the Spurs are very bad.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Of course I dont.
That Spurs team played much better defense
than any of the teams we have seen the past 2years.
Not even close.

The Spurs boring teams are easy to pick on.
They just won games almost every fourth quarter
by playing superior help D. That D is now very old,
very slow, and the Spurs are very bad.

The Knicks are very bad. The Spurs are just old.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Of course I dont.
That Spurs team played much better defense
than any of the teams we have seen the past 2years.
Not even close.

The Spurs boring teams are easy to pick on.
They just won games almost every fourth quarter
by playing superior help D. That D is now very old,
very slow, and the Spurs are very bad.

It could be argued that that team was given a ride into the championship game after the fight with Phoenix. The cleveland team they beat was about the worst championship finalist ever.

That spurs team would have gotten beaten by this laker team in my opinion.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

It could be argued that that team was given a ride into the championship game after the fight with Phoenix. The cleveland team they beat was about the worst championship finalist ever.

That spurs team would have gotten beaten by this laker team in my opinion.

The Spurs beat a bad Knicks team in 99,
a bad NJ team in 03, a decent Detroit team in 05,
a bad Cleveland team in 07. The Spurs have never
beaten a good team in any playoff.

We are not on the West or East coast, we cant be good.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The Spurs beat a bad Knicks team in 99,
a bad NJ team in 03, a decent Detroit team in 05,
a bad Cleveland team in 07. The Spurs have never
beaten a good team in any playoff.

We are not on the West or East coast, we cant be good.

The spurs have been the most consistently good team in the NBA over the course of the last 15-20 years. The team that lost to the Lakers in 04 should have won the title. In those years the spurs made it to the title round, getting past the western conference final was really the championship. They beat some tough teams those years.

07 was a funky year and the stars aligned. Golden State took care of the topseeded Mavs that year and then there was the controversial fight with Phoenix. I dont think anyone in their right mind would tell you that San Antonio was the best team in the west in 2007. It was a very weak year and in the east it was even weaker which resulted in the worst finals in recent memory...in my opnion.

Originally Posted by pgardn

We are not on the West or East coast, we cant be good.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Simmons has lived in LA for the past several years.

Same difference.
East or West as previously posted.

Just not the middle of the country.
No good teams in the middle.