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Old 06-11-2009, 02:44 PM
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"The Holocaust is a lie. Obama was created by Jews. Obama does what Jew owners tell him to do. Jews captured America's money. Jews control the mass media. The First Amendment is abrogated -- henceforth. ...," an excerpt said.

Found in his car..and probably on his mind I would think.
What does his citizenship have to do the rantings of a madman? Did Fox news make this guy insane? Is the right now denying the Holocaust too? Irans president has many times in public forums so maybe he should take some of the blame too, though I doubt he would mind. This is a clear case of the sensationalistic "journalism" the writer is complaining about. Tying the views of nutjobs to political pundits is a stretch. Free speech is fine unless you dont agree with it? It is a real stretch to say that psychos are killing people because of Bill O'Reilley. Nutcases have been killing people long before Foxnews came about. Just think of the reaction that JFK's death in modern terms would have caused? Surely Rush would have been to blame for inciting Oswald.
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:04 PM
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What does his citizenship have to do the rantings of a madman? Did Fox news make this guy insane? Is the right now denying the Holocaust too? Irans president has many times in public forums so maybe he should take some of the blame too, though I doubt he would mind. This is a clear case of the sensationalistic "journalism" the writer is complaining about. Tying the views of nutjobs to political pundits is a stretch. Free speech is fine unless you dont agree with it? It is a real stretch to say that psychos are killing people because of Bill O'Reilley. Nutcases have been killing people long before Foxnews came about. Just think of the reaction that JFK's death in modern terms would have caused? Surely Rush would have been to blame for inciting Oswald.
Especially this guy. He goes way back. I read where in 1981 he tried to kidnap the members of the Federal Reserve board of governers. there was no Fox, Palin, O'Reilly, Coulter, etc back then. who do we blame for that? Walter Cronkite, David Brinkley?
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:26 PM
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What does his citizenship have to do the rantings of a madman? Did Fox news make this guy insane? Is the right now denying the Holocaust too? Irans president has many times in public forums so maybe he should take some of the blame too, though I doubt he would mind. This is a clear case of the sensationalistic "journalism" the writer is complaining about. Tying the views of nutjobs to political pundits is a stretch. Free speech is fine unless you dont agree with it? It is a real stretch to say that psychos are killing people because of Bill O'Reilley. Nutcases have been killing people long before Foxnews came about. Just think of the reaction that JFK's death in modern terms would have caused? Surely Rush would have been to blame for inciting Oswald.
No, historically it's a pretty reliable way to get the masses worked up.

What do you think about the editor of the Dallas newspaper, that, in the week before Kennedy visited Dallas, called - in the newspaper - for his assassination?

Just an innocent opinionated bystander enjoying his American right of free speech, huh?
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:34 PM
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No, historically it's a pretty reliable way to get the masses worked up.

What do you think about the editor of the Dallas newspaper, that, in the week before Kennedy visited Dallas, called - in the newspaper - for his assassination?

Just an innocent opinionated bystander enjoying his American right of free speech, huh?
You really think that Oswald read some editorial and decided he need to kill the President? Where do you come up with this stuff?
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:59 PM
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You really think that Oswald read some editorial and decided he need to kill the President? Where do you come up with this stuff?
You really need to stop making assumptions up out of thin air, and attributing them to other people.

Oswald killed Kennedy as far as I've seen documented to try and impress his wife by being a hero. He picked Kennedy due to Kennedy's political views (heavily regarding Russia) - views that were attacked aggressively and repeatedly in the press in the weeks before the visit, as were Kennedy's religion and other politics. Oswald would be a hero to his wife (in his warped mindview) to knock off this inflammatory public figure.

Why are you a hero to kill the President? Well, look at all the people who say he deserves killing.

Do you think the environment of palpable hate down there, the public acceptance of people in positions of responsibility publically saying, "Kill The President Of The United States, he's bad for our country" had nothing at all to do with giving a degranged man the impetuous to kill the President?

Did you see Bill O'Reilly express any sincere remorse over George Tiller being killed? Naw, he spent his time bitching and whining about people pointing fingers at him.
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You really need to stop making assumptions up out of thin air, and attributing them to other people.

Oswald killed Kennedy as far as I've seen documented to try and impress his wife by being a hero. He picked Kennedy due to Kennedy's political views (heavily regarding Russia) - views that were attacked aggressively and repeatedly in the press in the weeks before the visit, as were Kennedy's religion and other politics. Oswald would be a hero to his wife (in his warped mindview) to knock off this inflammatory public figure.

Why are you a hero to kill the President? Well, look at all the people who say he deserves killing.

Do you think the environment of palpable hate down there, the public acceptance of people in positions of responsibility publically saying, "Kill The President Of The United States, he's bad for our country" had nothing at all to do with giving a degranged man the impetuous to kill the President?

Did you see Bill O'Reilly express any sincere remorse over George Tiller being killed? Naw, he spent his time bitching and whining about people pointing fingers at him.
You bring up some obscure reference to an editorial written in Dallas as evidence that "stirring the masses" can cause nutjobs to kill people then say that I am making assumptions? Oswald picked Kennedy because he disagreed with his political views? I didnt know there was another president around at the time to choose from.

No I think that people who are deranged enough to shoot the President are crazy regardless of what is said or written by political commentators.

Why should O'Reilly show remorse for the death of a guy he clearly didnt like? Wouldn't that play directly into the hands of people like you who are trying to place blame on him?
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