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Old 05-20-2009, 01:28 AM
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You honestly think James can cover an NBA point guard? A legit NBA point guard?
I'd rather take my chances with James on a point guard than Garnett. If you think Garnett could do a better job on an NBA point guard than James can.......I don't mean to be harsh but you really should refrain from joining any of the basketball discussions.
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Denver lost because of their inability to hit free-throws. That's it.
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Old 05-20-2009, 01:39 AM
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Denver lost because of their inability to hit free-throws. That's it.
17 offensive rebounds by the Lakers leading to 16 more shots didn't help.
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Old 05-20-2009, 02:32 AM
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17 offensive rebounds by the Lakers leading to 16 more shots didn't help.
It didn't but even in the one game the Nuggets beat the Lakers this year, the Lakers beat them on the offensive boards 22-11. In the third game it was 18-10 (they were only one apart in the first game). So the Lakers typically outrebound them and because of their size, dominate the offensive glass. But you can't give away free points. Denver went 23-35 from the line, 12-21 in the first half. That's unacceptable at this point in the season. Giving away 12 points in a game you realistically lost by only 1-2 points is disappointing.
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It didn't but even in the one game the Nuggets beat the Lakers this year, the Lakers beat them on the offensive boards 22-11. In the third game it was 18-10 (they were only one apart in the first game). So the Lakers typically outrebound them and because of their size, dominate the offensive glass. But you can't give away free points. Denver went 23-35 from the line, 12-21 in the first half. That's unacceptable at this point in the season. Giving away 12 points in a game you realistically lost by only 1-2 points is disappointing.
Thats the reason Billups gave. No doubt a contributing factor but I disagree it was "pure and simple". 12-21 in the first half means they shot 11-14 in the second half including an intentional miss so they actually went 11-13 when it counted. That is pretty darn good on the road in the playoffs and it was just as good as the lakers shot down the stretch.

To me that game was lost on tempo pure and simple. The lakers are 8 and 0 when scoring over 100 points and 1 and 4 when they scored below 100. Its not too hard to do the math. If you play an uptempo game against the lakers they will beat you.
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I'd rather take my chances with James on a point guard than Garnett. If you think Garnett could do a better job on an NBA point guard than James can.......I don't mean to be harsh but you really should refrain from joining any of the basketball discussions.
And you are the arbiter of who should join basketball discussions? LOL. I didnt say Garnett could do a better job on an NBA point...I said he would have a better chance guarding 5 positions. Is there a comprehension problem here? Garnett can guard an NBA center...well! Lebron isnt covering a center or a guard well.

Suddenly, Lebron is a lockdown defender of 5 positions...and i shouldnt be discussing basketball.
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:43 AM
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And you are the arbiter of who should join basketball discussions? LOL. I didnt say Garnett could do a better job on an NBA point...I said he would have a better chance guarding 5 positions. Is there a comprehension problem here? Garnett can guard an NBA center...well! Lebron isnt covering a center or a guard well.

Suddenly, Lebron is a lockdown defender of 5 positions...and i shouldnt be discussing basketball.
My God. It took me a while but I finally see what everyone else has seen for a long time. I give up.

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So it's like a 80/60 thing?

From what I can surmise KG can guard the 2-3-4-5 while LeBron can ONLY guard the 2-3-4.

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So it's like a 80/60 thing?

From what I can surmise KG can guard the 2-3-4-5 while LeBron can ONLY guard the 2-3-4.

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My only contention was that lebron can't guard five positions and anyone that knows anything about basketball knows this. Someone else said Lebron could come closest to doing it and my quote was that I think Garnett could come closest but Lebron would be in the same sentence of who would come closest. For some reason, this seems unreasonable to some.
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My only contention was that lebron can't guard five positions and anyone that knows anything about basketball knows this. Someone else said Lebron could come closest to doing it and my quote was that I think Garnett could come closest but Lebron would be in the same sentence of who would come closest. For some reason, this seems unreasonable to some.
Yeah yeah yeah. And i misquoted jerry west too. If someone says you can PLAY 4 positions than surely the 50% of the time you spend on defense should count no? Why you think James couldnt guard the vast majority of NBA centers is strange since there are lots of post defenders in the NBA smaller and not nearly as athletic as James.
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Yeah yeah yeah. And i misquoted jerry west too. If someone says you can PLAY 4 positions than surely the 50% of the time you spend on defense should count no? Why you think James couldnt guard the vast majority of NBA centers is strange since there are lots of post defenders in the NBA smaller and not nearly as athletic as James.
What did you think about the game last night?
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Yeah yeah yeah. And i misquoted jerry west too. If someone says you can PLAY 4 positions than surely the 50% of the time you spend on defense should count no? Why you think James couldnt guard the vast majority of NBA centers is strange since there are lots of post defenders in the NBA smaller and not nearly as athletic as James.
Magic played point guard but rarely was matched up against the other team's point. That job went to byron scott or michael cooper or norm nixon when he was there. Bird played 3 or 4 but was always matched up against the slower player of the other team. Iverson played 2 guard at philly but rarely matched up against the other team's two guard.

My point is that just because you "play" a position doesnt mean you defend it.
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