Outrage over kill-penned former Paragallo mares..

[GBBob]

Very tough to read

[SuffolkGirl]

my heart goes out to those poor horses..... how could anyone be so heartless?

[PPerfectfan]

I hate to say this but where is PETA when u need them? Now here is a situation where the peopel involved need to be harrassed and taken to task for this horrible situation. May he never win another race EVER.

[randallscott35]

And I'm supposed to be believe that Ernie didn't know?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by PPerfectfan

I hate to say this but where is PETA when u need them? Now here is a situation where the peopel involved need to be harrassed and taken to task for this horrible situation. May he never win another race EVER.

PETA doesn't do any animal rescue, nor support any animal abuse cases financially. They are a domestic terrorist organization.

I hope this** doesn't go away soon, and stays in the public eye [** the plight of excess horses that have outlived their current usefullness]

It's no secret that unwanted animals have always been killed. Far better than starvation and neglect.

But we bred them and we put them on this earth - we are responsible for them, they are indeed entitled to humane treatment before their death, and moreso, a humane death, be it a quick bullet in the back field of the farm or at the vets needle. I've euthanized hundreds of animals over my veterinary career, and each single life is important, each is an individual, and each one is entitled to a good death in kind hands.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Riot

PETA doesn't do any animal rescue, nor support any animal abuse cases financially. They are a domestic terrorist organization.

I hope this doesn't go away soon, and stays in the public eye.

It's no secret that unwanted animals have always been killed. Far better than starvation and neglect.

But we bred them and we put them on this earth - we are responsible for them, they are indeed entitled to humane treatment before their death, and moreso, a humane death, be it a quick bullet in the back field of the farm or at the vets needle. I've euthanized hundreds of animals over my veterinary career, and each single life is important, each is an individual, and each one is entitled to a good death in kind hands.

Riot, very well said. The idea that euthanasia can be completely avoided is not realistic. But suffering should not be allowed to occur. The same with the animals we eat. There is no place for animal abuse in this world.

[dagolfer33]

Thrown away like trash. What really disgusts me is invariably the ownership of these horses are "unaware" that the horses were destined for kill pens, slaughter, and other unacceptable treatment along the way. It is BS.

[randallscott35]

adjective=resembling an enigma; perplexing; mysterious


No mystery here.

[sumitas]

Why isn't he facing jail time ? Vick was jailed . Why isn't he suspended from horse racing ? Vick was suspended from the NFL . Horse racing's hands off policy has worked about as well as a de-regulated Wall Street .

If there were humane rules one would think that all his horses should be placed in receivership and managed by an appointed party . All Paraneck funds and purses would be frozen until this mess is throroughly investigated . We'll see what happens and if it's the usual right wing horse racing BS nothing will be done .

[outofthebox]

I know these mares' and believe me this is hurting. The last time i saw all these mares were in 06-07 and they were in fine health. There was a full staff working at the farm and it was run by some very hard working and horse loving people. Now i am worried about some of the horses i used to train, because i know they are out at that farm too..This sucks...

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

I know these mares' and believe me this is hurting. The last time i saw all these mares were in 06-07 and they were in fine health. There was a full staff working at the farm and it was run by some very hard working and horse loving people. Now i am worried about some of the horses i used to train, because i know they are out at that farm too..This sucks...

Sorry to hear that Alan.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by sumitas

Why isn't he facing jail time ? Vick was jailed . Why isn't he suspended from horse racing ? Vick was suspended from the NFL . Horse racing's hands off policy has worked about as well as a de-regulated Wall Street .

If there were humane rules one would think that all his horses should be placed in receivership and managed by an appointed party . All Paraneck funds and purses would be frozen until this mess is throroughly investigated . We'll see what happens and if it's the usual right wing horse racing BS nothing will be done .

Haven't you said you are a PETA member? If so, maybe you could consider no longer financially supporting the useless PETA, and instead consider sending your annual PETA donation to somewhere more useful to ending cases like like, such as Old Friends, etc.

[sumitas]

Originally Posted by Riot

Haven't you said you are a PETA member? If so, maybe you could consider no longer financially supporting the useless PETA, and instead consider sending your annual PETA donation to somewhere more useful to ending cases like like, such as Old Friends, etc.

i am not a peta member, never have been . now back to the subject please .

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dagolfer33

Thrown away like trash. What really disgusts me is invariably the ownership of these horses are "unaware" that the horses were destined for kill pens, slaughter, and other unacceptable treatment along the way. It is BS.

Plenty of people drop their dogs and cats and horses off at animal shelters and rescue places, or simply turn them out in the wild, and once they turn and walk away, they mentally absolve themselves of any more responsibility for what subsequently happens to the animal.

Some few could care less, but the vast majority of these owners care quite a bit. Some people feel guilty of such a thing their entire lives. People do the best they can with the resources they have.

It takes alot of guts to kill an animal who is not old, infirmed, or in pain, just because it isn't wanted by the current owner. And few vets will do that. "Good homes" for these animals are rare to non-existent.

There are too many animals, and not enough owners. Period.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Riot

Plenty of people drop their dogs and cats and horses off at animal shelters and rescue places, or simply turn them out in the wild, and once they turn and walk away, they mentally absolve themselves of any more responsibility for what subsequently happens to the animal.

Some few could care less, but the vast majority of these owners care quite a bit. Some people feel guilty of such a thing their entire lives. People do the best they can with the resources they have.

It takes alot of guts to kill an animal who is not old, infirmed, or in pain, just because it isn't wanted by the current owner. And few vets will do that. "Good homes" for these animals are rare to non-existent.

There are too many animals, and not enough owners. Period.

Well( like I said a few weeks ago,) they found a Meth addict running a Min Pin puppy mill out in Riverside, Ca.( shocking!) Their drinking water was filthy, and she had "de-barked" them by incorrectly cutting something in the back of their throats. They advertised on local news shows that they needed homes for them. I would of taken a couple, but they wanted to charge me $300 a piece for them. Rescue means different things to different people. I'm gunna be out plenty taking care of them. Why would I want to be out $600 to start with? There are 2 dogs that could be here in the right set-up for them, but they must not need it badly enough.

[dagolfer33]

When one of these large transfers/transactions of horses occurs, are there manifests and bill of sale/donation/or transfer of ownership? Does anyone know?