How does this make sense?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Like Bob, I don't see people not giving because of the lack of deduction. We'll see. I understand what you are saying, and it makes sense. But I guess the human in me is hoping that people are donating because they want to and not for the deduction.

It is simple economics. Eliminate a % of tax incentive, eliminate a % of revenue to charity. That is how it works. If you make less money, you spend less money. Same concept.

The issues not only is the negative effect on charity, what troubles me is the reasoning given. To make it "fair" to lower income givers? Has ANYONE ever given to charity and felt ripped off because someone else may have given more and gets a tax benefit from it?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Well, it should be obvious that charities were going to be suffering anyway. You know how bad the economy is right now. I just don't see this affecting how the super wealthy donates. And it's certainly not going to affect the how the not so wealthy donates, not the way things are right now.

So if they are suffering anyway now is the time to push through more class warfare legislation because the economic downturn and Bush can be blamed in the end? I cant understand how you and Bob keep referring to the super wealthy especially since we are talking about people who make 250k or more, the vast majority who wouldnt be considered super wealthy. And in case you hadn't been paying attention to the news a lot of the super wealthy arent so wealthy anymore...

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So if they are suffering anyway now is the time to push through more class warfare legislation because the economic downturn and Bush can be blamed in the end? I cant understand how you and Bob keep referring to the super wealthy especially since we are talking about people who make 250k or more, the vast majority who wouldnt be considered super wealthy. And in case you hadn't been paying attention to the news a lot of the super wealthy arent so wealthy anymore...

If you believe what Obama is doing is right for this country you believe that there will be more money to donate by all classes in the near future. You are focusing on one aspect of his plan as the logic for a decrease in charitable donations when I think that is part of the package that will help everyone out. Which in turn helps out charities. You guys are being too miopic.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by GBBob

If you believe what Obama is doing is right for this country you believe that there will be more money to donate by all classes in the near future. You are focusing on one aspect of his plan as the logic for a decrease in charitable donations when I think that is part of the package that will help everyone out. Which in turn helps out charities. You guys are being too miopic.

If you are talking economically, there is really very little evidence that what he is doing is right or will work, especially in the short term and considering how screwed up the rest of the world is too. If he is wrong then this is possibly disastrous for some charities. At the very least you have to admit the timing is premature considering that it is far from a sure thing to believe that hes policies will actually work. Of course as Roit said it is doubtful that Congress will pass a bill that could be spun as anti-charity.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by GBBob

If you believe what Obama is doing is right for this country you believe that there will be more money to donate by all classes in the near future. You are focusing on one aspect of his plan as the logic for a decrease in charitable donations when I think that is part of the package that will help everyone out. Which in turn helps out charities. You guys are being too miopic.

Let's see.....10 trill deficit .....and he pledges to cut deficit in half....but the campaign promise that swept him into office...TAX CUTS....isn't on the table now......54mil voters were hoodwinked and bamboozled I tell ya

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Let's see.....10 trill deficit .....and he pledges to cut deficit in half....but the campaign promise that swept him into office...TAX CUTS....isn't on the table now......54mil voters were hoodwinked and bamboozled I tell ya

tim let it go... get into the middle and stay put. 4years to go and you can say what you want then..obama is in .. let it go

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

tim let it go... get into the middle and stay put. 4years to go and you can say what you want then..obama is in .. let it go

Being in the middle means being mediocre.....can't do it! I didn't vote for the Fraud...which is EXACTLY what he is if he can't do what he said he would do. I'm not going quietly into the night while the country falls to sH%T.


Borrowing a line from Dennis Green.....OBAMA IS WHAT WE SAID HE WAS!!!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Being in the middle means being mediocre.....can't do it! I didn't vote for the Fraud...which is EXACTLY what he is if he can't do what he said he would do. I'm not going quietly into the night while the country falls to sH%T.


Borrowing a line from Dennis Green.....OBAMA IS WHAT WE SAID HE WAS!!!

that's crap. and sounds like something rush limbaugh has said.

[timmgirvan]

Just roll another doobie and don't answer then! You're a much better handicapper than I, but that seems to be the extent of your value. I'll be watching for your hard-hitting commentary on the worlds' problems,too.