Rachel Alexandra

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

He's a slow plodder. Was before the juice, is with the juice.

The horses these trainers seem to move up, at least in my eyes, are ones that are already naturally fast, or at least have a good turn of foot.

A slow plodder who ran a final quarter in 24 and change in the Lecomte? Or went wire to wire breaking his maiden?

He may be a miler or may not have liked the slop, but something was obviously wrong today.

NT

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

A slow plodder who ran a final quarter in 24 and change in the Lecomte? Or went wire to wire breaking his maiden?

He may be a miler or may not have liked the slop, but something was obviously wrong today.

NT

A fast horse that closed in 24 and change off a blazing fast 1:14 maybe?

That's pretty incredible I guess.

I'm not to sure I'd use his 2yo form either to make a case for his speed. He was life and death to beat a pretty mediocre filly that has since lost in the Sunshine Millions and the Santa Anita Oaks.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

A fast horse that closed in 24 and change off a blazing fast 1:14 maybe?

That's pretty incredible I guess.

I'm not to sure I'd use his 2yo form either to make a case for his speed. He was life and death to beat a pretty mediocre filly that has since lost in the Sunshine Millions and the Santa Anita Oaks.

I suppose we have different opinions of what a "slow plodder" is because Patena may have limitations but I just don't see him as a slow plodder. Giant Oak maybe, or Terrain, but Patena has some speed when he's right. I just don't think that was him today.

NT

[Indian Charlie]

Actually, I really just meant slow plodder in comparing him to the types these juice trainers typically move way up.

[Scav]

What does she close at tomorrow in the Oaks pool and given how Old Fashioned ran today, do they seriously consider the Oaks now?

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Scav

What does she close at tomorrow in the Oaks pool and given how Old Fashioned ran today, do they seriously consider the Oaks now?

Wiggins has to think about the Arkansas Derby now. The Fantasy purse is a quarter of the purse of the Ark Derby.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Wiggins has to think about the Arkansas Derby now. The Fantasy purse is a quarter of the purse of the Ark Derby.

i would seriously consider it. she obviously likes the surface, and i don't think old fashioned is quite as invincible as everyone once thought. of course if hot springs was as nasty as it's been here, two hours southeast, he may not have liked the surface and could be given benefit of the doubt. i wasn't home all day, so i wasn't able to catch any of the action-so i don't know what the situation was at oaklawn.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Wiggins has to think about the Arkansas Derby now. The Fantasy purse is a quarter of the purse of the Ark Derby.

I hope there is some information tomorrow about her, I am considering putting $500 on her to win the Oaks if I can get 5/1 but I am hesitant now that the Derby seems like a logical spot

[King Glorious]

He absolutely has to consider the Arkansas Derby with her. If you have a horse that has to be considered in the top two choices for a $1 million purse, you'd be a fool to not go for it. Even a second place finish versus males would look better on her resume than winning the fantasy. And it's more money. He'd be a fool not to go there and a bigger one not to even consider it.

[cowgirlintexas]

Originally Posted by Cardus

Probably a hind end problem.

It'll be fixed.

Yeah, he was crossfiring