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Old 03-09-2009, 10:12 AM
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Just read Prado's been taken off Giant Oak and Jimmy Graham will ride. That'll make local guy's day....
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:15 AM
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Just read Prado's been taken off Giant Oak and Jimmy Graham will ride. That'll make local guy's day....
wow....Good for Graham. Hoping GO does well. but still worried he'll be summering at AP
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:20 AM
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wow....Good for Graham. Hoping GO does well. but still worried he'll be summering at AP
Think possitive. How great will it be beating him?
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:32 AM
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Think possitive. How great will it be beating him?
I like the way you think (sometimes ), but really have no desire to have to deal with him. We have a good meet laid out and would rather not have Team Block deciding they want to run him here.
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:34 AM
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I think Prado got the boot because he had a prior obligation at Tampa. It's neither here nor there because he has ridden Giant Oak like crap on two occasions. Jimmy Graham is a more than worthy replacement.

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Old 03-09-2009, 10:12 PM
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I think Prado got the boot because he had a prior obligation at Tampa. It's neither here nor there because he has ridden Giant Oak like crap on two occasions. Jimmy Graham is a more than worthy replacement.

NT
Prado is named on a few stakes mounts on Saturday's Fairgrounds card (Dry Martini, African Skies, and Nownownow). He must not have the mount on Hello Broadway in the Tampa Bay Derby on Saturday. Maybe he is planning on getting Dunkirk back if Gomez sticks with Pioneer of the Nile. He could also pick Imperial Council back up for the Wood Memorial.
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Old 03-09-2009, 02:32 PM
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Think possitive. How great will it be beating him?
I'll 2nd that!
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:59 AM
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Just read Prado's been taken off Giant Oak and Jimmy Graham will ride. That'll make local guy's day....
I thought that Edgar elected to ride Hello Broadway instead of traveling to FG to ride Giant Oak...
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Old 03-09-2009, 11:07 AM
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I thought that Edgar elected to ride Hello Broadway instead of traveling to FG to ride Giant Oak...
he may have but here's what I read:


"We got about what we were looking for," the trainer said. "He worked as well as you could want. We let the other horse get as far in front as we wanted, and James said 'Oak' relaxed real well behind him.

"I feel real good about the owners' decision to let James ride him this time in the Louisiana Derby. Although this will be the first time James has ridden him in a race, he's gotten to know this horse real well in the mornings, and they've always seemed to click together. Also, James knows this track very well, and you always know you're going to get 110 percent from him any time he rides any horse for you."

http://www.tsnhorse.com/cgi-bin/edit...ll_edition.cgi
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:18 PM
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i think JG has worked hard with this horse in the am, and it's paying off for him now-that and the last race they had with prado up. no doubt they're also thinking it's best to go with a rider that is more familiar with the track. i'm anxious to see his next after all his problems in his last race. i want to know if he deserves a lot of the attention he's been getting.
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Old 03-09-2009, 12:45 PM
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Let's put the Prado Giant Oak thing in proper perspective. No matter who else rides GO, and Graham is certainly not one of the better riders out there, you know he'll get a better trip. Especially someone who rides at FG and knows the track a bit. He'll keep GO OUTSIDE, clear of trouble, and let him do what he does best: RUN LATE.

Prado and his agent came off as being completely unprofessional/unprepared in the Risen Star. Forget about the actual ride itself but the tactics were bush league. On a track where saving ground is NOT the typical way to go, Prado put GO INSIDE and BEHIND horses almost immediately. GO was clearly uncomfortable going into the 1st turn. And Prado kept him there for essentially the entire race --- finding trouble before the 2nd turn and again when he finally tried to take him outside in the stretch.

What a ****in joke. Did Prado/his agent prepare at all for the ride? Do either have any knowledge of FG? Did they watch any tape? Did they email the Fat Man? Can't really blame BlockHEAD, as he probably figured he'd hired a competent rider/team and not novices, and, he's a trainer, after all. What does he know?

Prado is really at a point in his career where he needs to seriously consider retiring. He just never seems to make the right decision in races. This is because he's lost his nerve. He's flat out afraid. He can't ride the inside anymore and he lacks aggressiveness. Moreover, his strength seems to have diminished to bug boy/girl level.

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Old 03-09-2009, 11:09 PM
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Prado and his agent came off as being completely unprofessional/unprepared in the Risen Star. Forget about the actual ride itself but the tactics were bush league. On a track where saving ground is NOT the typical way to go, Prado put GO INSIDE and BEHIND horses almost immediately. GO was clearly uncomfortable going into the 1st turn. And Prado kept him there for essentially the entire race --- finding trouble before the 2nd turn and again when he finally tried to take him outside in the stretch.

What a ****in joke. Did Prado/his agent prepare at all for the ride? Do either have any knowledge of FG?
Now this is indeed bush league. Making the wrong decisions
in a split second is one thing. But not preparing for a horse and
connections that have Derby aspirations (or really any other) is
inexcusable. They have access to information and should take
advantage of it. Not knowing the track or horse is horribly
unprofessional at this level.

And...
Prado will find a horse for the Derby.
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Old 03-13-2009, 03:24 PM
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Prado on West Side Bernie next week in the Lane's End and Imperial Council in the Wood.

As for Prado knowing Fair Grounds? He won the LA Derby on Peace Rules, yes?
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