If there is a 9/11 scale attack on US soil in the next 24 months

[King Glorious]

If you are going to blame Obama then I'm assuming you would also be blaming Bush for the first one right?

I don't think anything is going to happen. I think something might have had McCain or Clinton been elected. Not with Obama though. That part of the world views him different than they would view anyone else that would have been elected as president. I don't think it's too far fetched to believe that it will be a part of their thought process to not embarrass the black man. I've talked to a few Islamic and Arab people and that's the vibe that I've gotten; they feel like Obama is someone that's going to be more sympathetic towards them, even if it's just a little bit. Not easy on them but just a little bit easier to deal with as far as talking and trying to resolve things. One person said to me "we know that Obama is our best chance to get peace over there because when he walks in a room to negotiate with them, they will see someone that looks like them as opposed to the usual white, military man that wants to just go to war with them." He said that basically, they would have seen McCain as another Bush, whom they hate and they would have had a hard time negotiating with Clinton, who's not only white but is also a woman and you know how they feel about women over there.

We'll see what happens but I don't think there will be anything major happening.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

If you are going to blame Obama then I'm assuming you would also be blaming Bush for the first one right?

I don't think anything is going to happen. I think something might have had McCain or Clinton been elected. Not with Obama though. That part of the world views him different than they would view anyone else that would have been elected as president. I don't think it's too far fetched to believe that it will be a part of their thought process to not embarrass the black man. I've talked to a few Islamic and Arab people and that's the vibe that I've gotten; they feel like Obama is someone that's going to be more sympathetic towards them, even if it's just a little bit. Not easy on them but just a little bit easier to deal with as far as talking and trying to resolve things. One person said to me "we know that Obama is our best chance to get peace over there because when he walks in a room to negotiate with them, they will see someone that looks like them as opposed to the usual white, military man that wants to just go to war with them." He said that basically, they would have seen McCain as another Bush, whom they hate and they would have had a hard time negotiating with Clinton, who's not only white but is also a woman and you know how they feel about women over there.

We'll see what happens but I don't think there will be anything major happening.

Good points KG, I agree that many folks around the world celebrated Obama's victory...and that's a good thing! It's a harsh world and an attack could come regardless of who is President. I blame Bush for a lot of stuff...9-11 isn't one.

[Danzig]

i also don't believe, and hope, that there will be another 9//11 style attack. we've become much more aware these days....our safety, due partly to geograpy(we are literally an ocean away from many folks who wish us harm) isn't quite so assured in this day and age with travel being easier. we learned that lesson a hard way.
i don't know that it's easy tho to say that a change in leader alone guarantees anything-we're still the united states, and many still wish us ill. by the same token, i think everyone is as sick of bush as we've become, so at this point anything is an improvement.

the change by bush to pre-emptive strikes was a mistake. that doesn't mean sit and wait for a 9/11 attack, but certainly going across borders into syria and pakistan without those govts approval has got to stop.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Good points KG, I agree that many folks around the world celebrated Obama's victory...and that's a good thing! It's a harsh world and an attack could come regardless of who is President. I blame Bush for a lot of stuff...9-11 isn't one.

ditto

but I'm waiting for Timmi to post that he blames Clinton

[paisjpq]

I can't believe I actually read this thread...Dala are you high? you've written a bunch of ridiculous buillsh*t but this one ranks up there with PG1985

[MaTH716]

I personally don't think that there will be another 9-11 style attack. Security is too high at airports. Plus most importantly, people won't sit idle anymore. The days of being hi-jacked to just go to Cuba are over. Passangers know what the end result will be and band together to try to stop the terrorists.

That being said, I really don't think it matters who is in office. These people hate America and what America stands for. Therefore they would try to attack us no matter who the president is, given the opportunity. I believe that eventually there will be another attack, but nothing to the scale and devestation of 9/11.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I can't believe I actually read this thread...Dala are you high? you've written a bunch of ridiculous buillsh*t but this one ranks up there with PG1985

why do you feel this way? Is it ridiculous to think that there could be another attack? Is it ridiculous to think that the new administration would probably be blamed?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

why do you feel this way? Is it ridiculous to think that there could be another attack? Is it ridiculous to think that the new administration would probably be blamed?

Way too soon to establish blame for an act that hasn't occurred! It's foolish to think there aren't plans in motion now to harm this country and its' citizens, here and abroad. Our initial response will probably be good, as our security infrastructure is secure(needs tweaks) What happens after that is up to the leaders of our country....Then you can blame and debate it!

[hi_im_god]

i'm way ahead of you. i've been working out the math on who's to blame for sarah palin's election in 2012.

it's narrowed down to 2 demographics. humorless conservative's and horny guys. i'll report back when i've finalized my results.

and the answer to your question is no. it isn't obama's fault. it's the jews.

i mean...duh!

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

why do you feel this way? Is it ridiculous to think that there could be another attack? Is it ridiculous to think that the new administration would probably be blamed?

Uh..excuse me ...but are you insane?



Do you know who she is?

Ever see the movie Indiana Jones...the first one? Recall the girl who owned the desert bar and slammed down whiskey by the quart? The one who doubled as her own bouncer?

That character was based on Thebby.





Don't let those two giant mice of hers with the strange looking ears fool you. They are every bit as mean as she is.

I took this time to warn you.I hate this place.

So I hope you appreciate what I just did for you.



Don't ever question her again...or you will turn up "missing"....just like the rest.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Uh..excuse me ...but are you insane?



Do you know who she is?

Ever see the move Indiana Jones...the first one? Recall the girl who owned the desert bar and slammed down whiskey by the quart? The one who doubled as her own bouncer?

That character was modeled after Thebby.





Don't let those two giant mice of hers with the strange looking ears fool you. They are every bit as mean as she is.

I took this time to warn you.I hate this place.

So I hope you appreciate what I just did for you.



Don't ever question her again...or you will turn up "missing"....just like the rest.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I can't believe I actually read this thread...Dala are you high? you've written a bunch of ridiculous buillsh*t but this one ranks up there with PG1985

I couldn't have said it better myself.
This thread is stupid, and I mean like Sarah Palin stupid.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I couldn't have said it better myself.
This thread is stupid, and I mean like Sarah Palin stupid.

Yeah, keep telling me about how scholars arent calling the bush admin socialist either.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Yeah, keep telling me about how scholars arent calling the bush admin socialist either.

I am in no mood to have this argument with you again since you seem completely unwilling to grasp basic concepts, but I'll give it a shot.
What do you think the socialist parties in America think of the government bailouts? By your logic they should be happy about it right? They aren't. Why? Because they see it for what it is, which is an attempt to prop up global capitalism, which is exactly what true socialists do NOT want.
I encourage you to read this article: http://socialistworker.org/2008/10/15/comrade-in-chief
The whole thing is interesting, but the real key comes at the end:
"The transition from capitalism to socialism can't be a gradual or incremental process by which the state enacts reforms and progressively takes ownership of more and larger chunks of the economy. Rather, socialism represents a radical break with the present system--and depends on the active struggles of workers and their subsequent engagement with every aspect of governing society in their own interest, under the guiding principle of human need before corporate greed."

As for what scholars think, I can only tell you that as someone that works in academics in a department where about 75% of the people are marxists, I can assure you that none of them would call the actions taken by the administration in recent weeks/months socialism.

Now please feel free to go back to calling people names like hillbilly and loser. It is real classy.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I can't believe I actually read this thread...Dala are you high? you've written a bunch of ridiculous buillsh*t but this one ranks up there with PG1985

Did you see her Ann answer?

She muggy faced you in it---mmm-hmmm.

But she can get away with it because she is so pretty and smart.



I don't blame you for feeling intimidated.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I can't believe I actually read this thread...Dala are you high? you've written a bunch of ridiculous buillsh*t but this one ranks up there with PG1985

Do you have really,really long hair??

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by GBBob

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ditto

but I'm waiting for Timmi to post that he blames Clinton

I blame Clintom for alot but not 9-11

However, I think the honeymoon with Obama will be over relatively shortly, unless he completely 'bends over' to the demands of the enemies of our country.