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Old 11-06-2008, 12:09 PM
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that's your reference????? Holy crap! Scuds is on the sidelines for this one.
It's just that I am letting the Conservative White Males vent some. I actually think some of our White Trash is gunna try very hard to kill OBA. So, you should consider sharpening your knives for JOE. Zig is a Conservative on most issues, but not on Social Issues. She has positions that are pretty close to a typical Gay Republican (Log Cabin Republican.) That's the only way I have been able to define her selection of positions. I see her as a type of Conservative. She doesn't see herself that way, because she puts emphasis on the social issue disagreements she has with other Conservatives. Her other beliefs are very Conservative. That's why she is getting along with the Gay Republican Gal. That's exactly who she should be getting along with. She isn't gunna be loyal to a party, because she has too many issues in disagreement with parties. I believe one's economic ideas about society are the most important. That's why I don't see her as a DEM OR INDY. She's not in the middle on stuff. She's either very Conservative or very Liberal(Social issues.) She's not an INDY.
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:40 PM
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It's just that I am letting the Conservative White Males vent some. I actually think some of our White Trash is gunna try very hard to kill OBA. So, you should consider sharpening your knives for JOE. Zig is a Conservative on most issues, but not on Social Issues. She has positions that are pretty close to a typical Gay Republican (Log Cabin Republican.) That's the only way I have been able to define her selection of positions. I see her as a type of Conservative. She doesn't see herself that way, because she puts emphasis on the social issue disagreements she has with other Conservatives. Her other beliefs are very Conservative. That's why she is getting along with the Gay Republican Gal. That's exactly who she should be getting along with. She isn't gunna be loyal to a party, because she has too many issues in disagreement with parties. I believe one's economic ideas about society are the most important. That's why I don't see her as a DEM OR INDY. She's not in the middle on stuff. She's either very Conservative or very Liberal(Social issues.) She's not an INDY.

So what you are saying is that she's really fucl<ing smart!
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:37 PM
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So what you are saying is that she's really fucl<ing smart!
Well, if she is that smart, then I don't know why she would look for candidates with views like hers. I know she likes to hunt, but come on! Who has been like this? That Senator Snow Lady from Maine(maybe.)
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:41 PM
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Well, if she is that smart, then I don't know why she would look for candidates with views like hers. I know she likes to hunt, but come on! Who has been like this? That Senator Snow Lady from Maine(maybe.)
lol
btw, i didn't vote for a single republican on any ticket. surprised?
and i do have a hard time finding people who agree with me on all issues, so all i can do is find a compromise solution. it would be nice if everyone did that. look at how many agree with a candidate on basically every issue, but vote against him or her due only to their view on abortion. that's narrow mindedness.

i know i'm an oddball. doesn't bother me.
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:45 PM
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lol
btw, i didn't vote for a single republican on any ticket. surprised?
and i do have a hard time finding people who agree with me on all issues, so all i can do is find a compromise solution. it would be nice if everyone did that. look at how many agree with a candidate on basically every issue, but vote against him or her due only to their view on abortion. that's narrow mindedness.

i know i'm an oddball. doesn't bother me.



and I dont mind being a "Log Cabin Republican" or whatever that is

I'm registered INDY but I'm def. a conservative with liberal social views (which I feel social issues should not be things decided by the gov anyway)
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:59 PM
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and I dont mind being a "Log Cabin Republican" or whatever that is

I'm registered INDY but I'm def. a conservative with liberal social views (which I feel social issues should not be things decided by the gov anyway)
i don't know what log cabin rep is either. i'm not registered as anything, it's not required here to list a party.
as for social issues...most should have been assumed by individual states long ago, the fed should never have become what it is now.
each state knows best it's constituency, the cost of living is different in each area-it just seems you'd have less fraud, less waste, if it was all more localized. but how do you move the burden to states, along with the taxing ability? obviously local and state taxes would rise, with a simultaneous lowering of federal-how that could ever be accomplished is beyond me.
but, like when the electoral college came up--this country isn't the same as when it began; back then, most wanted no kind of centralized govt-now it's exactly what we've got. individual states no longer look at themselves as autonomous for the most part. it's a big mess, really.

here in arkansas, we have arkids first to provide health care for kids without insurace. and everyone says it's a much better program than the federal program, more kids are covered, and more procedures. yet we still pay for the federal program as well. double dipping so to speak..but that's a prime example of locally handling an issue being better than everything thru d.c. but who will attack the problem?
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:14 PM
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i don't know what log cabin rep is either.

A gay that doesn't want to pay their taxes=L.C. Republican
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:02 PM
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btw, i didn't vote for a single republican on any ticket. surprised?
and i do have a hard time finding people who agree with me on all issues, so all i can do is find a compromise solution. it would be nice if everyone did that. look at how many agree with a candidate on basically every issue, but vote against him or her due only to their view on abortion. that's narrow mindedness.

i know i'm an oddball. doesn't bother me.
Be fair - in Arkansas, there probably wasn't a single Republican on the ballot in the first place!
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:04 PM
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Be fair - in Arkansas, there probably wasn't a single Republican on the ballot in the first place!
Really? Arkansas is traditionally one of the reddest states in the nation (Billy not included.)
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:25 PM
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Really? Arkansas is traditionally one of the reddest states in the nation (Billy not included.)
it's an odd state. that's why i laugh when people plant labels. someone is liberal, or conservative, etc, etc. but many people defy labels.

arkansas has many folks who are conservative in their viewpoints on social issues such as gay marriage, abortion, but are liberal leaning otherwise. oh, wait..i mean dem-leaning. that liberal word is frowned upon around here.
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Old 11-06-2008, 04:22 PM
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Be fair - in Arkansas, there probably wasn't a single Republican on the ballot in the first place!
i think there was, and has been in the past. i voted against them too, too far too the right, and too religious.
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All's I know is that not a single person running for federal office in Arkansas - including four D's - had an opponent. Their state legislature is like 3:1 D's to Republicans. They might vote red on a federal level, but that is a state that is absolutely dominated by Democrats on the state and local levels.
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Old 11-06-2008, 12:58 PM
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It's just that I am letting the Conservative White Males vent some. I actually think some of our White Trash is gunna try very hard to kill OBA. So, you should consider sharpening your knives for JOE. Zig is a Conservative on most issues, but not on Social Issues. She has positions that are pretty close to a typical Gay Republican (Log Cabin Republican.) That's the only way I have been able to define her selection of positions. I see her as a type of Conservative. She doesn't see herself that way, because she puts emphasis on the social issue disagreements she has with other Conservatives. Her other beliefs are very Conservative. That's why she is getting along with the Gay Republican Gal. That's exactly who she should be getting along with. She isn't gunna be loyal to a party, because she has too many issues in disagreement with parties. I believe one's economic ideas about society are the most important. That's why I don't see her as a DEM OR INDY. She's not in the middle on stuff. She's either very Conservative or very Liberal(Social issues.) She's not an INDY.
Ok, so what are my political positions? I don't even know myself how to classify it.
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AR gets a bad rap, but that is one beautiful part of the country, no doubt.
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Ok, so what are my political positions? I don't even know myself how to classify it.
I don't know. I don't pay attention to it much. It's just that I have been reading her stuff since even before the last Presidential Election. I also know the people who have extreme views. Don't know the other people's views that much.
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I don't know. I don't pay attention to it much. It's just that I have been reading her stuff since even before the last Presidential Election. I also know the people who have extreme views. Don't know the other people's views that much.
Phil is a spend, spend, spend but don't tax me liberal.
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Phil is a spend, spend, spend but don't tax me liberal.
LOL, I guess. You're the person who knows me best on this board.
Actually I'm against excessive government spending and putting that money to better use, is that the same thing?
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Old 11-06-2008, 03:38 PM
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It's just that I am letting the Conservative White Males vent some. I actually think some of our White Trash is gunna try very hard to kill OBA. So, you should consider sharpening your knives for JOE. Zig is a Conservative on most issues, but not on Social Issues. She has positions that are pretty close to a typical Gay Republican (Log Cabin Republican.) That's the only way I have been able to define her selection of positions. I see her as a type of Conservative. She doesn't see herself that way, because she puts emphasis on the social issue disagreements she has with other Conservatives. Her other beliefs are very Conservative. That's why she is getting along with the Gay Republican Gal. That's exactly who she should be getting along with. She isn't gunna be loyal to a party, because she has too many issues in disagreement with parties. I believe one's economic ideas about society are the most important. That's why I don't see her as a DEM OR INDY. She's not in the middle on stuff. She's either very Conservative or very Liberal(Social issues.) She's not an INDY.
my position generally comes based upon what the constitution grants us. i think in that respect i'm always consistent, altho i know you told me you think i'm the exact opposite. ti's from all my study of american history, and of civics, that i get my ideas from.
perhaps i do seem all over the place, but i always try to consider each issue on its own, and make a decision-which is why no party works for me...probably why i don't identify myself as a roman catholic either, even tho i was raised as one, by two devout catholic parents.

like i said before scuds..and this may shock you. i am uninterested in any further tax cuts, which is something both candidates promised. i think obama should concentrate on making do with what is set up now, add no new spending, and attack the deficit-which i think is the biggest drag on our economy. welfare isn't, social security isn't. but our ability to continue to function with a viable economy has got to be the #1 priority.
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