Tips/Thoughts on Breeders' Cup tickets this year?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Round Pen

I just went back and did a little research here is the old track records at SA when it was a dirt course.

6f-107.1
6 1/2f-113.3
7f-120 flat
1 1/16th 139 flat
1 1/8-145.4


So in ernest the only race that went faster than any of the previous dirt records were the filly and mare sprint and to be exact it was .10 faster.

SO to me to say the day was a joke just because the track was to fast is completely out there. I really think the times would have been very comparible if the races would have been on the old SA dirt track

Those old records also were set over the course of many years. Not all in one day. Look at the BC days at SA in the past:

1986
J-143 4/5
JF-143 1/5
S-108 2/5
D-201 1/5 (10f)
C-200 2/5

1993
J-142.99
JF-143.08
S-108.76
D-148.35
C-200.83

2003
J-143.62
JF-142.75
S-107.95
D-149.17
C-159.88

So you see that in the F/M Sprint, they went the 6f split today faster than all three previous BC finals times for the boys. You see that Stardom Bound went 1.76 seconds faster than every J or JF winner. You see that Zenyatta went 1.5 seconds faster than the next best Distaff winner. Now, to be fair, it's quite possible that Stardom Bound and Zenyatta could turn out to be all-time horses or at least better than the horses that ran those previous BC times. But it's more likely that the track was playing faster than it ever has than those horses all happened to run exceptionally fast horses all on the same day.