Is Tiger a more dynamic athlete than Jordan?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Hell of a lot more involved in Golf. It is the single most difficult game on the planet imo. The game makes me hate myself deeply. Im suprised more people dont commit suicide while playing.

You hit a perfect putt right on line, perfect speed its going in ...a grain of sand and a slight puff of wind and around the rim of the cup. God help me. And I suck so bad. Look at a guy like Charles Barkely who was an absolutely fantastic athlete. 6 foot 4 and he could get the ball over anybody down low. INcredible. Watch him swing the golf club and it will make you puke. Such a weird game.

Of course it is a difficult...GAME. Ive worked over twenty years for my lousy 12 handicap LOL. And if i had cyanide at times on the course...

However, how is it more of an ATHLETIC ENDEAVOR than archery? Or pool? Or bowling? Is it more difficult than any of those? Sure it is. Is it any more of an ATHLETIC ENDEAVOR?

no, it isnt. If it were such an athletic endeavor, i couldnt drink and smoke while i was doing it.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Of course it is a difficult...GAME. Ive worked over twenty years for my lousy 12 handicap LOL. And if i had cyanide at times on the course...

However, how is it more of an ATHLETIC ENDEAVOR than archery? Or pool? Or bowling? Is it more difficult than any of those? Sure it is. Is it any more of an ATHLETIC ENDEAVOR?

no, it isnt. If it were such an athletic endeavor, i couldnt drink and smoke while i was doing it.

You can't compare golf to pool or archery. You could compare putting to pool or archery. You don't need to be athletic to putt. But it takes a lot of athleticm to hit a golf ball far. You have to generate serious club-head speed to hit a golf ball 280 yards.

[SentToStud]

I think for the most part golfers are tremendous athletes. Their athleticism differs from other sports (as all sports differ). I spent a morning at Dolphins training camp last week and I am absolutely amazed at the athleticism of all football players, especially the very large linemen who do carry a lot of weight. But I do think golfers are athletes as well. They walk 5-6 miles a day, 5-6 days a week and every five minutes they execute a shot that requires strerngth, skill and the ability to perform under pressure. I don't think there is much more individual pressure in any sport than in golf on a Sunday when every shot can mean $50,000 or much more.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

I think for the most part golfers are tremendous athletes. Their athleticism differs from other sports (as all sports differ). I spent a morning at Dolphins training camp last week and I am absolutely amazed at the athleticism of all football players, especially the very large linemen who do carry a lot of weight. But I do think golfers are athletes as well. They walk 5-6 miles a day, 5-6 days a week and every five minutes they execute a shot that requires strerngth, skill and the ability to perform under pressure. I don't think there is much more individual pressure in any sport than in golf on a Sunday when every shot can mean $50,000 or much more.

.....and where if you don't perform....you don't get paid. How's that for having to perform under pressure?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by GPK

.....and where if you don't perform....you don't get paid. How's that for having to perform under pressure?

They still have endorsement loot though, I am guessing alot of it is incentive based but NONE of those pros are struggling and every single one of them has a SMOKIN hot wife..PGA guys probably have the hottest wives for any sport. even Billy F'n mayfair had a great piece of 43 year old behind this weekend

[GPK]

Originally Posted by Scav

They still have endorsement loot though, I am guessing alot of it is incentive based but NONE of those pros are struggling and every single one of them has a SMOKIN hot wife..PGA guys probably have the hottest wives for any sport. even Billy F'n mayfair had a great piece of 43 year old behind this weekend

Yeah...the top players do Tom....but the guys struggling....they don't

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You can't compare golf to pool or archery. You could compare putting to pool or archery. You don't need to be athletic to putt. But it takes a lot of athleticm to hit a golf ball far. You have to generate serious club-head speed to hit a golf ball 280 yards.

Have seen way too many fat guys in their fifties drive the ball a long way to believe it takes "a lot of athleticism". Sure it takes a lot of skill and practice…..but athleticism…..please.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Have seen way too many fat guys in their fifties drive the ball a long way to believe it takes "a lot of athleticism". Sure it takes a lot of skill and practice…..but athleticism…..please.

Huh? Just because a guy is heavy does not mean he's not an athlete. I got a real close up look at Dan "Big Daddy" Wilkinson at a Dolphins practice the other day. YOU tell him he's not an athlete just because he's 75 lb above his ideal weight.

YOU tell Larry Holmes too, ok? He was not the most toned guy in the world late in his career, including in '92 when he beat the sh1t out of a buffed-up Ray Mercer for 12 rounds at the age of 43.

I guess boxers are not athletes either?

And, of course, don't forget Dusty Rhodes. The American Dream was still doing it well into his 50's. "I have wined and dined with Kings and Queens; slept in alleys and lived on beans."

I rest my case.

[Smooth Operator]

Of course they're athletes, Stud…..because they're doing MUCH more athletic things like trying to get past a 350 pound offensive tackle so they can sack a QB…..or trying to knock someone's head off (or keep from getting their head knocked off) for 12 rounds, in the case of a boxer.

They're not standing around waiting to hit a little white ball that's sitting perfectly still on a tee.


By the way, who's Dusty Rhodes?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Of course they're athletes, Stud…..because they're doing MUCH more athletic things like trying to get past a 350 pound offensive tackle so they can sack a QB…..or trying to knock someone's head off (or keep from getting their head knocked off) for 12 rounds, in the case of a boxer.

They're not standing around waiting to hit a little white ball that's sitting perfectly still on a tee.


By the way, who's Dusty Rhodes?

I'm not saying Sapp isn't an athlete, I'm simply saying the same things about him that you say about Daley or Lumpy...they don't look like typical athletes doesn't mean they aren't. Dusty Rhodes (real name Virgil something, got brain lock) is a professional wrestler and promoter, always looked fat and sloppy but boy could he get it done! Pro Wrestling brings up an interesting point...obviously not a sport but the guys that participate are certainly athletes. So...if we are going to determine whether something is a sport or not based solely on the perceived athleticism of the participants, are you gonna say Pro Wrestling is indeed a sport?