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Old 09-16-2008, 12:53 PM
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Great Kate Above had lengths the best trip save being shuffled 1 1/2 to 2 lengths on the turn. With a 100% perfect trip she would have won but all things considered she ran about where she probably should have.

I understand it might have been frustrating to bet the horse, though you know how I feel about jockeys who insist on jamming their horses inside on the turf, but after the race is over you have to look at the trip in its entirety. Great Kate Above had some trouble.....but a lot more things went right for her.
man, you're just a paradoxer.

you have a horse that loses ground at a key point in the race and you're going on about it being an advantage. context tripping/handicapping? fooeey.
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Old 09-16-2008, 01:17 PM
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The horse saved ground the whole way and got a perfect trip save a mild shuffle.

Would it have done better if it was clear but also four wide on the first turn?
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Old 09-16-2008, 01:37 PM
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Not only does this filly NOT win if she got anything other than a perfect suckup trip BUT she wouldn't have won if she was able to bid with the others midturn, at the end of her perfect trip.

But you know all that, 'cause it's obvious.

As for those to which it is not obvious: what are you doing playing the game?
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:43 PM
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Not only does this filly NOT win if she got anything other than a perfect suckup trip BUT she wouldn't have won if she was able to bid with the others midturn, at the end of her perfect trip.

But you know all that, 'cause it's obvious.

As for those to which it is not obvious: what are you doing playing the game?
Dude relax you are no more gifted then the other kids in the school for good handicappers.
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:54 PM
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Dude relax you are no more gifted then the other kids in the school for good handicappers.
still having reading comprehension issues, freddy?

next post of yours that is actually ABOUT a race will be your 1st -- at least since I've been here

thus, needless to say, I VALUE your opinion
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Old 09-16-2008, 07:00 PM
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still having reading comprehension issues, freddy?

next post of yours that is actually ABOUT a race will be your 1st -- at least since I've been here

thus, needless to say, I VALUE your opinion
You should value my opinion.. I dont doubt your passion or talent..Only thing holding you back is attitude and judgement you could be free of insanity but you choose the latter. I tried trust me I begged one day you will get it!
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:56 PM
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To me, when she came up on the stopping leader longshot, that was more than a shuffle.

Whether she would have/could have won or not was not the question.

She did have a bad trip.


Worst in history can certainly be debated.

I'd be curious about anyone's thoughts about playing her next time she runs.

I'll commit and say my inclination would be to stay away from wagering on her if she comes back to the track against remotely similar company anytime in the next 21 days to possibly a month.

She just ran two races in 17 days, and my handicapping self at this time would think that one took alot out of her.
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