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Old 09-10-2008, 02:51 PM
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how did the good ole boys get Obama to use a dumb punchline that referenced a pig with lipstick and and old rotting fish when talking about what he claims are the stale policies of his opponents Palin and McCain? why would a presidential candidate use a line like that? even if you buy into the fact that it was an innocent oversight and no double entendre was to be inferred (which I don't buy for a minute because they are certainly not that stupid), isn't there a better way to make your point and not have that point totally lost in the clamor over the remark?

secondly, do you think for one minute that the first time Palin makes a mistake or gaffe, innocent or not, that it won't be pounced on within minutes by team Obama, in an effort to score points? if you don't then I have a bridge to nowhere to sell you.


Hey I'm with you on the conservative side... but what Obama said was not a big deal.. he took it from McCain actually, who has used the phrase twice while relating it to Liberal Policies.

Also.. the whole "my muslim faith" comment was taken greatly out of context if you read the transcript.. I could see how he said it accidently. The dude is a Christian.. and his wacky church and Palins wacky church should cross each other out!

But hey.. if it helps McCain win the election then Take it out of Context!!
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Old 09-10-2008, 03:04 PM
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Hey I'm with you on the conservative side... but what Obama said was not a big deal.. he took it from McCain actually, who has used the phrase twice while relating it to Liberal Policies.

Also.. the whole "my muslim faith" comment was taken greatly out of context if you read the transcript.. I could see how he said it accidently. The dude is a Christian.. and his wacky church and Palins wacky church should cross each other out!

But hey.. if it helps McCain win the election then Take it out of Context!!
it wasn't a big deal, it will only cost Obama about 48 hours in the news cycle. if thats no big deal to him fine. what people don't seem to understand is that it doesn't matter how it was intended, it was simply poor judgement to have said it and shows that he and his team are incompetent.
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Old 09-10-2008, 03:07 PM
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it wasn't a big deal, it will only cost Obama about 48 hours in the news cycle. if thats no big deal to him fine. what people don't seem to understand is that it doesn't matter how it was intended, it was simply poor judgement to have said it and shows that he and his team are incompetent.

hey I would like for Obama to stick his foot in his mouth every week if it helps McCain... I was just saying that what he said wasnt a big deal and sounds different if you just hear those few words, compared to his whole speech.
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Old 09-10-2008, 03:10 PM
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hey I would like for Obama to stick his foot in his mouth every week if it helps McCain... I was just saying that what he said wasnt a big deal and sounds different if you just hear those few words, compared to his whole speech.
the theme of the rest of his speech was lifted from a Tom Toles cartoon.
i posted it previously.

they better get him back on the teleprompter real quick.
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Old 09-10-2008, 04:26 PM
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the theme of the rest of his speech was lifted from a Tom Toles cartoon.
i posted it previously.

they better get him back on the teleprompter real quick.
Why do you know so much about this guy's speeches? Shouldn't Conservatives be bored by him? I can't make it through 1 damn speech by McCAIN, but somehow you aren't put to sleep by Obama.
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Old 09-16-2008, 05:27 PM
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the theme of the rest of his speech was lifted from a Tom Toles cartoon.
i posted it previously.

they better get him back on the teleprompter real quick.
looks like they took my advice, the teleprompter is now mobile, it even goes to rodeos!


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looks like they took my advice, the teleprompter is now mobile, it even goes to rodeos!


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...its-the-trail/
LOL, because Grandpa Munster's been doing so well without his note cards. "The fundamentals of the economy are strong".. "No wait, I meant American workers. Stop bashing American workers!" The guy is clueless.

I hope you Repubs are excited about the prospect of voting Justin Dew for President.
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LOL, because Grandpa Munster's been doing so well without his note cards. "The fundamentals of the economy are strong".. "No wait, I meant American workers. Stop bashing American workers!" The guy is clueless.

I hope you Repubs are excited about the prospect of voting Justin Dew for President.
Joey: looks like your party was doggin it!
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...90&tab=summary

they blocked a bill/legislation that would have precluded much of the financial mud(housing) the country is mired in now(2005)

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Old 09-10-2008, 03:30 PM
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it wasn't a big deal, it will only cost Obama about 48 hours in the news cycle. if thats no big deal to him fine. what people don't seem to understand is that it doesn't matter how it was intended, it was simply poor judgement to have said it and shows that he and his team are incompetent.
Incompetent nothing. They ran a great primary campaign, and are doing the right thing by calling the Republicans out on their fabricate controversy by any means to distract from the issues tactics. Al Gore and John Kerry's respective campaigns tried to take the high road by not responding to the Republicans filthy tactics.. Didn't work, now the Obama camp is saying 'Stop this bullshit right now'.. Will it stop? I doubt it, since McCain/Palin have absolutely no platform to run on, but it's good to point out **** so people don't step in it.
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McCain/Palin have absolutely no platform to run on, but it's good to point out **** so people don't step in it.
BS.
It they had no platform people would not be so vehemently opposed.
McCain has made it clear he will see Iraq through. Did you miss this?

McCain basically does not want to touch health care, Obama does.

I am sure you can add to this short list of important issues.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:22 PM
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BS.
It they had no platform people would not be so vehemently opposed.
McCain has made it clear he will see Iraq through. Did you miss this?

McCain basically does not want to touch health care, Obama does.

I am sure you can add to this short list of important issues.
I'll start with the latter....Obamas'(and Hillarys') would cost about 15% of the National budget, and while everybody bitches about the war cost, should we just bail out in midstream like 'Nam?? I'd rather not...
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:32 PM
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BS.
It they had no platform people would not be so vehemently opposed.
McCain has made it clear he will see Iraq through. Did you miss this?

McCain basically does not want to touch health care, Obama does.

I am sure you can add to this short list of important issues.
So you had however long to think of the platform McCain's running on, and you came up with.. Stay in Iraq indefinitely. Sweet..
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:15 PM
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So you had however long to think of the platform McCain's running on, and you came up with.. Stay in Iraq indefinitely. Sweet..
Oh cmon.
Dont touch healthcare.

Lower taxes to stimulate growth.
Continue to bail out Wall Street.
Drill for oil in off limit places in Alaska to supplement our addiction.

These are the major issues right now.

You pretend like the Republicans have no ideas.
They have plenty of ideas. You just dont like them and
thats fine. But to say they have no real platform...

You could not hate them as hard as you do.
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Old 09-10-2008, 06:17 PM
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Oh cmon.
Dont touch healthcare.

Lower taxes to stimulate growth.
Continue to bail out Wall Street.
Drill for oil in off limit places in Alaska to supplement our addiction.

These are the major issues right now.

You pretend like the Republicans have no ideas.
They have plenty of ideas. You just dont like them and
thats fine. But to say they have no real platform...

You could not hate them as hard as you do.
he's just young...he'll learn after getting burned by some of his heroes!
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it wasn't a big deal, it will only cost Obama about 48 hours in the news cycle. if thats no big deal to him fine. what people don't seem to understand is that it doesn't matter how it was intended, it was simply poor judgement to have said it and shows that he and his team are incompetent.

You know I can be objective about this stuff. He does make communication errors when he is tired, lazy, or his brain goes on slow( I agree the guy has some very unprofessional interviews...like the Stephanopoulis lazy communication thing.) I just don't think this is one of those instances. Look, everyone knows she said the thing about lipstick separating soccer moms from female pitbulls. He did use that fact. He is basically saying honey, if you wanna know what's got lipstick on it, try looking at McCain's economic plan. That is a pig(economic plan for the last 8 years) with lipstick on it. It's still a pig. He simply used a line of hers(lipstick on something,) and used it in another folksy metaphor. If anybody could of been upset, it would of been the Soccer moms(in the 1st place.) She did make a joke about them being pitbull btches with lipstick. I mean somehow people understood that to be humor. I doubt they would take it the same if a man said it. If anything was questionable about this, it's her referring to a group of women as pitbulls with something on them. He called an economic plan a pig with something on it. If anything was out of line, it was the former. I guess he was making fun of her doing that.
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Old 09-10-2008, 05:13 PM
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You know I can be objective about this stuff. He does make communication errors when he is tired, lazy, or his brain goes on slow( I agree the guy has some very unprofessional interviews...like the Stephanopoulis lazy communication thing.) I just don't think this is one of those instances. Look, everyone knows she said the thing about lipstick separating soccer moms from female pitbulls. He did use that fact. He is basically saying honey, if you wanna know what's got lipstick on it, try looking at McCain's economic plan. That is a pig(economic plan for the last 8 years) with lipstick on it. It's still a pig. He simply used a line of hers(lipstick on something,) and used it in another folksy metaphor. If anybody could of been upset, it would of been the Soccer moms(in the 1st place.) She did make a joke about them being pitbull btches with lipstick. I mean somehow people understood that to be humor. I doubt they would take it the same if a man said it. If anything was questionable about this, it's her referring to a group of women as pitbulls with something on them. He called an economic plan a pig with something on it. If anything was out of line, it was the former. I guess he was making fun of her doing that.
WTF is this lame ass doing running for POTUS for if he's physically and mentally tired by this campaign that he's running by himself? That's just a microcosm of the whole problem with this candidate! 19 months?...and he wants to run the country for 8 YEARS???? Give me an F'ing break.
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WTF is this lame ass doing running for POTUS for if he's physically and mentally tired by this campaign that he's running by himself? That's just a microcosm of the whole problem with this candidate! 19 months?...and he wants to run the country for 8 YEARS???? Give me an F'ing break.
And where will McCain be in eight years? If he is even alive, he will be wearing a diaper and forgetting where he lives.

Yeah, I can imagine the g8 summit in 2015 when Putin asks if President McCain has crapped himself...again.
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And where will McCain be in eight years? If he is even alive, he will be wearing a diaper and forgetting where he lives.

Yeah, I can imagine the g8 summit in 2015 when Putin asks if President McCain has crapped himself...again.
you projecting again?...or been talkin to Karnak again? That's a fear tactic that you boys love to bring up.
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you projecting again?...or been talkin to Karnak again? That's a fear tactic that you boys love to bring up.
A republican talking about FEAR TACTICS? LOL

Say, timmi, whats the terror code alert today? Is it red, blue, orange or purple?

I live 20 mins from DC and I havent seen a "terror alert" since...the last election.

Go figure.
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