$5.50 for this?

[ELA]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

I think the point I am making is that the price of gas increases but you still get gas. The price of milk increases but you still get milk. The price of the DRF increases and while the quantity of content may have increased (trainer stats, Tomlinson (by the way how does he come up a Turf figure in the 180's for a horse who's Grandsire is Danzig?) River Downs PP's, etc...the quality has diminished considerably.

Not even close to being a fair or logical comparison. Some people see it as a complete neccessity and having tremendous value, others will think it's a complete waste. So you fall into the latter. So be it.

Eric

[ateamstupid]

Jesus Christ.

Never thought I'd hear someone complain about paying five bucks for a DRF, when Ragozins are 35 DOLLARS A CARD and TG's are 25. At least you get multiple tracks from the Form, racing news and handicapping columns.

The only thing I'd agree with you on is that the Closer Looks are getting lazy, and the ink sucks, but that's about it. Everything else is fine, and $5.50 is a freaking bargain. Get a grip.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Jesus Christ.

Never thought I'd hear someone complain about paying five bucks for a DRF, when Ragozins are 35 DOLLARS A CARD and TG's are 25. At least you get multiple tracks from the Form, racing news and handicapping columns.

The only thing I'd agree with you on is that the Closer Looks are getting lazy, and the ink sucks, but that's about it. Everything else is fine, and $5.50 is a freaking bargain. Get a grip.

My only thing with it is I wish I would go to white paper, instead of newspaper. I don't get it because I end up getting ink all over my face by about the 5th race.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

My only thing with it is I wish I would go to white paper, instead of newspaper. I don't get it because I end up getting ink all over my face by about the 5th race.

If you're pressing the Form to your face, you're not using it right.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

If you're pressing the Form to your face, you're not using it right.

It is more putting my hands on my face in disgust most of the time....like a 'why me' look

[ELA]

Personally, I think the DRF is great. I download a ton of race cards, read articles on line all the time, etc. -- and I still buy the paper-version DRF. To whatever extent you are going to be in the game, you have your tools and you use them. If the price of the tools is an issue, then you do without. If you don't see value in a certain tool, you don't buy it.

Eric

[TheSpyder]

and what about when you go to the whip....I'm sure you've ruined many pairs of pants too...or have you looked?

Originally Posted by Scav

My only thing with it is I wish I would go to white paper, instead of newspaper. I don't get it because I end up getting ink all over my face by about the 5th race.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

and what about when you go to the whip....I'm sure you've ruined many pairs of pants too...or have you looked?

I only whip with a local AP program, and this year they changed it and it is even better, no more gloss paper, it can withhold more now, it is great.

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by ELA

Not even close to being a fair or logical comparison. Some people see it as a complete neccessity and having tremendous value, others will think it's a complete waste. So you fall into the latter. So be it.

Eric

Here's your locigal comparison as it pertains to Milk. Before I paid $4.00 for a gallon of milk. Now I pay $5.50 for that same gallon of milk because I have to expect that prices are increasing everywhere. Except now, the gallon of milk I buy is only 3 days from going sour instead of 10 days. I should accept this?

Where do I say that the information provided in the DRF is a complete waste? How the hell can one handicap without PP's? Is my point that difficult to comprehend? Do I write in code? Why shouldn't we expect the premiere racing periodical in our country to be top notch? If you feel that the DRF is top notch, and the errors and flaws I speak of don't exsist, then say so. But, I'm pretty sure that they do exist, because I don't just pull this crap out of my ass. I don't feel that the DRF's price increases over the past 2-3 years (somewhere between 35% and 40%) are justified based on the dimminishing quality over that same period.

[ELA]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Here's your locigal comparison as it pertains to Milk. Before I paid $4.00 fopr a gallon of milk. Now I pay $5.50 for that same gallon of milk because I have to expect that prices are increasing everywhere. Except now, the gallon of milk I buy is only 3 days from going sour instead of 10 days. I should accept this?

Where do I say that the information provided in the DRF is a complete waste? How the hell can one handicap without PP's? Is my point that difficult to comprehend? Do I write in code? Why shouldn't we expect the premiere racing periodical in our country to be top notch? If you feel that the DRF is top notch, and the errors and flaws I speak of don't exsist, then say so. But, I'm pretty sure that they do exist, because I don't just pull this crap out of my ass. I don't feel that the DRF's price increases over the past 2-3 years (somewhere between 35% and 40%) are justified based on the dimmishing quality over that same period.

Sorry, but it's not an applicable comparison. You might feel it is, and that's OK. Perhaps your problem will be solved if you don't buy milk or the DRF. If you do both, I certainly wouldn't drink milk while reading the DRF. Good luck.

Eric

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by ELA

Sorry, but it's not an applicable comparison. You might feel it is, and that's OK. Perhaps your problem will be solved if you don't buy milk or the DRF. If you do both, I certainly wouldn't drink milk while reading the DRF. Good luck.

Eric

Why is it not applicable?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Here's your locigal comparison as it pertains to Milk. Before I paid $4.00 for a gallon of milk. Now I pay $5.50 for that same gallon of milk because I have to expect that prices are increasing everywhere. Except now, the gallon of milk I buy is only 3 days from going sour instead of 10 days. I should accept this?

Where do I say that the information provided in the DRF is a complete waste? How the hell can one handicap without PP's? Is my point that difficult to comprehend? Do I write in code? Why shouldn't we expect the premiere racing periodical in our country to be top notch? If you feel that the DRF is top notch, and the errors and flaws I speak of don't exsist, then say so. But, I'm pretty sure that they do exist, because I don't just pull this crap out of my ass. I don't feel that the DRF's price increases over the past 2-3 years (somewhere between 35% and 40%) are justified based on the dimminishing quality over that same period.

I still don't get the analogy.

can you put it in terms of bacon?

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

I still don't get the analogy.

can you put it in terms of bacon?

Sure...you used to buy bacon for $4 a pound...good, meaty bacon, that held it's form when you cooked it...now they are giving you a lot more bacon, say a pound and a half, but are charging you $5.50 and when you cook it, it shrivels up like a shrinky dink.

Get it now?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

Sure...you used to buy bacon for $4 a pound...good, meaty bacon, that held it's form when you cooked it...now they are giving you a lot more bacon, say a pound and a half, but are charging you $5.50 and when you cook it, it shrivels up like a shrinky dink.

Get it now?

My Form doesn't shrivel up when I cook it.

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

My Form doesn't shrivel up when I cook it.

That's because it comes pre-shriveled...

And that folks, has been my point from the beginning...