Suggestions for Casino Drive Jockey

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Better Than Honour

How many races has he ridden at Belmont? How many has Johnny V?

I don't think that has anything to do with it. Take is a damn good jock-I see nothing wrong at all in going with him.

[ShadowRoll]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I don't think that has anything to do with it. Take is a damn good jock-I see nothing wrong at all in going with him.

Is Honour making such an unreasonable point? Belmont's a lot different than most American tracks. I saw both Stewart Elliot and Jeremy Rose ride in the Belmont. My recollection is that Elliot was there for the first time on the day of the race while Rose went up about a week early and rode some other horses to get a feel for the track. Not saying that experience with the track was the dominant factor in either of those races (I thought Smarty Jones got tag-teamed into an uncomfortable and contested pace on the lead in contrast to the smoother trip Afleet Alex got), but I still wonder if Elliot's move on Smarty Jones was premature compared to Rose's move, which seemed timed just right.

[Danzig]

I don't think it matters really. I don't know why going with JV would be better than going with Take. You mentioned Elliott, but what about Desormeux on Real Quiet? He rode the track before, and RQ still lost.

[ShadowRoll]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I don't think it matters really. I don't know why going with JV would be better than going with Take. You mentioned Elliott, but what about Desormeux on Real Quiet? He rode the track before, and RQ still lost.

I'm not sure that Real Quiet's loss can be attributed to jock error. And I'm not pushing any particular jock over Take. Just pointing out that because Belmont is somewhat unique with its long, sweeping turns, isn't it an advantage to have ridden the track before to get the timing down, and to lessen the chance of jock error?

[Danzig]

maybe for a new jock, but not one with Takes experience.

[Riot]

Considering Take's home track is Sha Tin, I don't see how our little Belmont track would be a problem for him.

[ShadowRoll]

Originally Posted by Mumtaz

Considering Take's home track is Sha Tin, I don't see how our little Belmont track would be a problem for him.

Oh? How big is it?

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Mumtaz

Considering Take's home track is Sha Tin, I don't see how our little Belmont track would be a problem for him.

Sha Tin is in HK, not Japan.

I thought the plan all along had been to bring Take over for the Belmont.....

[CSC]

Take's a damn good rider, world class infact. I know he did a stint out West a few years ago to luke warm success and perhaps that is what most North American observers remember from him. But in Japan where racing is 1st class, and there are multiple big races, this guy is a big race rider. Sure he gets the mounts but he converts a vast majority of them.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by Mumtaz

Considering Take's home track is Sha Tin, I don't see how our little Belmont track would be a problem for him.

Sha Tin might not be in Japan...

just guessing.

They need to bring Darren Beadman's ass over from Australia and let him guide the emmefffer home.

[Travis Stone]

I would say to whoever is riding, "Get as good of a trip in the Belmont as you did in the Peter Pan."

[ajphilly]

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll

My recollection is that Elliot was there for the first time on the day of the race while Rose went up about a week early and rode some other horses to get a feel for the track.

I don't think Elliot was up there for very long before the race but I know he had some mounts at the track the day before the Belmont Stakes that year.