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Old 05-10-2008, 09:36 PM
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Come on.
what? i've always been under the impression that some don't like it. of course, he may not like it much when the water gets deeper!!
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:49 PM
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what? i've always been under the impression that some don't like it. of course, he may not like it much when the water gets deeper!!

Funny, I've always been under the impression that dirt is dirt, and mostly when you hear " he didn't like the track " in these situations it is the usual trainerspeak BS.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:52 PM
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Funny, I've always been under the impression that dirt is dirt, and mostly when you hear " he didn't like the track " in these situations it is the usual trainerspeak BS.
but then you have horses for courses, so who knows?
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:54 PM
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but then you have horses for courses, so who knows?
Maybe you have horses for courses. I don't.
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:56 PM
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Maybe you have horses for courses. I don't.
there was a horse not too long ago who only won at belmont, no where else. i could see betting him there, but with his record elsewhere, you'd be crazy to include him. that's not a horse for a course?
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:57 PM
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two questions;

did DeSormeaux say that Casino Drive was the best horse he has ever ridden,
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is Tomcito now officially off the triple crown trail?
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:04 PM
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two questions;

did DeSormeaux say that Casino Drive was the best horse he has ever ridden,
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is Tomcito now officially off the triple crown trail?
Tomcito is a riot. Some people will believe anything.
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Anybody want to school me on the trainer of Casino Drive?
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two questions; did DeSormeaux say that Casino Drive was the best horse he has ever ridden?
Desormeaux actually DID say it, tongue in cheek, but was seriously impressed after the race.
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:05 AM
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Desormeaux actually DID say it, tongue in cheek, but was seriously impressed after the race.
Early reports are he got a 101 beyer for the effort? I thought it would have been slightly higher. Still needs to improve abit to reach Big Brown and Harlem Rocker's top beyers.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:21 PM
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Maybe you have horses for courses. I don't.
Horses for courses is an overused cliche but it's true with certain horses.
Silver Train nearly broke the track record for six and a half the first time he ran at Belmont on July 2,2005. He followed that up with winning the BC Sprint and Met Mile the following year.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:33 PM
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Horses for courses is an overused cliche but it's true with certain horses.
Silver Train nearly broke the track record for six and a half the first time he ran at Belmont on July 2,2005. He followed that up with winning the BC Sprint and Met Mile the following year.

Silver Train was more a horse for the barn.....Dutrow's barn.

He was nothing before the trainer change.
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Silver Train was more a horse for the barn.....Dutrow's barn.

He was nothing before the trainer change.
That's true but he did run his best races on Belmont Park's main track.

I agree that Silver Train improved ten fold once he entered the Dutrow Jr. barn. We all know about Dutrows rep, the suspensions , etc. I just realized that July 2, 2005 race took place when Dutrow was on suspension. That was also the day when Offlee Wild won his Grade 1 race with Juan Rodriguez as the listed trainer.

How do you think Dutrow Jr does it? He improves the lowest of quality horses just as he does with top class horses. The detention barn is in place and his numbers are basically the same. He's won BC races. If he is as dirty as people say why doesn't he get caught with major raceday drug violations?
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like "id allways hoped in my dreams he would."........barf bag needed........
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Funny, I've always been under the impression that dirt is dirt, and mostly when you hear " he didn't like the track " in these situations it is the usual trainerspeak BS.
The last half is DEAD ON.

I think even the layman can tell when a horse isn't handling a particular track by the way it's striding.
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The last half is DEAD ON.

I think even the layman can tell when a horse isn't handling a particular track by the way it's striding.
war pass tampa..nuff siad
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Old 05-10-2008, 09:58 PM
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war pass tampa..nuff siad
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Proud Spell, KEE.
Half of the dirt horses in America, KEE.
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Old 05-11-2008, 02:08 AM
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Half of the dirt horses in America, KEE.
That's just not true. Some of them handled it but just didn't run well. PYRO would be one example. But, feel free to generalize.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:09 PM
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Funny, I've always been under the impression that dirt is dirt, and mostly when you hear " he didn't like the track " in these situations it is the usual trainerspeak BS.
The hell it is.
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