Is Haskin joking?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

I realize some people have a hard time rationally discussing Curlin because of an extreme distaste for his trainer and/or owners. I have no interest in the drug/breeding/connections aspect of all this. It's irrelavant to my main point which is that Curlin was no doubt the best performer of the 2007 3yo's.

I have to disagree with the no doubt assessment. Winning in the slop at Monmouth (which we knew Street Sense didn't like) was the only time he singled himself out and it hardly made him the no doubt best performer of the 2007 3yos. If Street Sense and Hard Spun were both in training this year I would guarantee that Curlin would not go undefeated.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

I have to disagree with the no doubt assessment. Winning in the slop at Monmouth (which we knew Street Sense didn't like) was the only time he singled himself out and it hardly made him the no doubt best performer of the 2007 3yos. If Street Sense and Hard Spun were both in training this year I would guarantee that Curlin would not go undefeated.

Street Sense would never have gotten in the way of a Curlin win this year.
Hard Spun, under the right conditions might have been able to.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Street Sense would never have gotten in the way of a Curlin win this year.
Hard Spun, under the right conditions might have been able to.

The horse often makes their trip which is why I don't understand the criticism of Street Sense cause his big wins were dream trips. There are very few horses that would have taken the rail like Street Sense did. Brother Derek might have actually crapped mid-race had his jockey ever tried to take him through a hole like that.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

Street Sense would never have gotten in the way of a Curlin win this year.
Hard Spun, under the right conditions might have been able to.

I totally agree.

[Danzig]

i don't know how you can make the case that street sense wouldn't have been able to give curlin a run for his money at four. street sense won throughout the year last year, but then ran his worst race in the swamp at monmouth. how does that correlate to him not giving curlin a run this year? would all their matchups be in a quagmire?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Because, and it pains me to say, Street Sense was always phony.

[Danzig]

lol
always phony? talk about rewriting history.
that has to knock curlins ability down a couple notches, if he was all out to beat a phony by a head bob in the preakness.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

He stumbled, was rushed along, bore out some, was left for dead by a perfect trip Street Sense on the far turn - and somehow won anyway.

Street Sense had no excuse for not winning that race.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Because, and it pains me to say, Street Sense was always phony.

Thats the worst, and most inaccurate thing I've EVER heard you say.







Then I read your Pyro tout thread.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by philcski

Thats the worst, and most inaccurate thing I've EVER heard you say.

I laughed.


But honestly, look at Street Sense's final four races...

Jim Dandy: A very workmanlike slow figure win with CP West a length and a half back in 2nd. Cowtown Cat was menacing on the turn and finished like 4th by 3.

Travers: He sat right off of the lightly raced and lacking foundation Grasshopper (who was making his stakes debut) - and needed almost the entire length of the stretch to win.

Ky Cup: An unpressured Hard Spun was pulling away from him through the lane

Breeders Cup Classic: Tried to win the race by moving in tandem with Curlin, he simply couldn't stay with him and was fractured trying. Coming off of the bridel late and losing 3rd to suck-up Awesome Gem.

The people who think Street Sense was some kind of monster have to base that laughable opinion solely on his BC Juvenile, Tampa Derby, Kentucky Derby, and Preakness efforts - all of which came with the same fast paced setup and the same dream trip.

I call him a phony only because his mind-boggling repute was built on the basis of four big races that anyone should have been able to identify as dream trips for the ages.