Eight Belles to the Derby?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Overall, I don't think that the fillies are as good as the boys but at the top, I don't think there's much difference. I think that the top four girls (IB, Proud Spell, Pure Clan, and Eight Belles) are on par with the top four boys (Big Brown and whoever else the other three might be).

I'd give Eight Belles a shot in the Derby too. I would make her my third choice behind Big Brown and Colonel John, assuming War Pass and El Gato Malo aren't there (which they shouldn't be). But I also agree with Steve that of Jones' two, Proud Spell would be the one I'd rather see there.

What has Pure Clan or Indian Blessing done this year to put them on par with the top four males? Pure Clan was just 3rd in a four horse field of fillies and Indian Blessing is either heading to a sprinting career or retirement.

[jcs11204]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

What has Pure Clan or Indian Blessing done this year to put them on par with the top four males? Pure Clan was just 3rd in a four horse field of fillies and Indian Blessing is either heading to a sprinting career or retirement.

pure clan did surge late in that race, and she does seem to be one who wants more distance.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by jcs11204

pure clan did surge late in that race, and she does seem to be one who wants more distance.

oh yeah, how did i miss that. send her to the derby then, she'll be fine.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

What has Pure Clan or Indian Blessing done this year to put them on par with the top four males? Pure Clan was just 3rd in a four horse field of fillies and Indian Blessing is either heading to a sprinting career or retirement.

Indian Blessing has still run two races that were faster than Pyro, who despite his loss, will still be one of the two favorites for the Derby. I would put Eight Belles in my top three for the Derby and Pure Clan is right with her, IMO. It's not so much that the fillies have done more than the boys but that the boys have done nothing to seperate themselves from the fillies.

[cakes44]

This is the same Eight Belles who was all out to beat Alina right?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by cakes44

This is the same Eight Belles who was all out to beat Alina right?

You do also realize the Alina was coming in off a 100 Beyer, something very few of the males have been able to do this year.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

You do also realize the Alina was coming in off a 100 Beyer, something very few of the males have been able to do this year.

And Alina had positional advantage and Pure Clan forced Eight Belles to run three wide on the turn yet she still ran Pure Prize down who like you said was razor sharp. a very good race I thought for Eight Belles.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

You do also realize the Alina was coming in off a 100 Beyer, something very few of the males have been able to do this year.

Yes, and you are welcome to take her huge figure from the bullring at Delta at face value if you wish. I guess Alina should think about going to the Derby too?

[cakes44]

Put any of War Pass, Bob Black Jack, Gayego, or Big Brown in Alina's spot and tell me what happens.

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Put any of War Pass, Bob Black Jack, Gayego, or Big Brown in Alina's spot and tell me what happens.

Given the difference in trip and Eight Belles breaking in the air, she runs second. Tell me any 3YO (colt or filly) that given the circumstances Eight Belles faced, beats any of those four colts with the trip Alina had...

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Yes, and you are welcome to take her huge figure from the bullring at Delta at face value if you wish. I guess Alina should think about going to the Derby too?

Alina will be no less than 10-1 in the Oaks and probably 3rd choice behind Country Star and Proud Spell (assuming E/B is in the Derby).

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by smuthg

Alina will be no less than 10-1 in the Oaks and probably 3rd choice behind Country Star and Proud Spell (assuming E/B is in the Derby).

Country Star favored? I sure hope so...

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by cakes44

Yes, and you are welcome to take her huge figure from the bullring at Delta at face value if you wish. I guess Alina should think about going to the Derby too?

I wouldn't take it at face value if she hadn't comeback to validate it in the Fantasy.

I don't think Alina is nominated to the Triple Crown. These males are so bad this year though that anyone with a filly nominated has to give it some serious thought.

[lostcode]

Yes Eight Belles of the 6 ad 4 horse fields the last 2 races. Pretty much the same as running in a 20 horse derby! God I hope they run her in the derby, every dollar bet on her is wasted money.