Cleveland Indians

[horseofcourse]

I've missed ya Avery how's it going?? Classic borowski meltdown a couple nights ago. Good for the team however...every time he had one last year...the team would respond and win the next game and pretty regularly for a couple weeks.

They're struggling with the sticks again...reminds of the July to Mid August period last year when they completely stopped hitting. Of course they look like the '27 Yankees compared to the Tiggers!!!

[Mortimer]

That was a beauty all right.


The hitting shut down certainly is a major concern given the guaranteed black hole in left field.


Another guarantee----Sabbathia is melting from the contact pressure. He should have a really stinky-poo year.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

That was a beauty all right.


The hitting shut down certainly is a major concern given the guaranteed black hole in left field.


Another guarantee----Sabbathia is melting from the contact pressure. He should have a really stinky-poo year.

No...he's never had one of those ever. He may win 13 games with a 4 ERA...but his track record suggests he won't stink considering he never has...unless he's injured. He's not the best "pressure" pitcher in the game based on his post season last year, but hard for me to imagine a complete bad year for him. Guess it's possible he could start pressing the more mediocre to bad starts he has.

[Mortimer]

Oh...he's never had one so that makes it impossible for it to happen.




It took him 4 years or so to get his delicate brain up to speed with his talent. Then he hist the play-offs and crumbles from.....the pressure.


Hey...don't listen to me about the Tigers or Sabbathia.




Or about the greatest basketball player ever and his completely inept teammates.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

Oh...he's never had one so that makes it impossible for it to happen.




It took him 4 years or so to get his delicate brain up to speed with his talent. Then he hist the play-offs and crumbles from.....the pressure.


Hey...don't listen to me about the Tigers or Sabbathia.




Or about the greatest basketball player ever and his completely inept teammates.

Well, no. I consider stinky-poo to be Cliff Lee last year. I don't think he'll win 5 games with an ERA over 6. If you consider stinky poo 11 wins and a 4.50 ERA, yes, he can do that. I'm not gonna panic from 2 bad starts. He actually only had one BAD start in postseason...the other two were mediocre.

[Mortimer]

I don't think Lee even made it much past mid season. Sabbathia will be stinky-poo over the entire year. The Indians mess up so much on these deals...almost always do the wrong thing. Sabbathia could have been traded before this year started since it's obvious he is going for the biggest possible contract which Cleveland won't do----which is the right thing.


Carmona and Westbrooks will have big years and Lee will do well,too.

And the sooner Here's Jhonny goes---the better.

[horseofcourse]

I think they were banking on contending this year thus they didn't trade him. They felt if they were out of it, they could deal him in July. I can't argue with them not trading the Cy Young winner and consistent 12-18 game winner over his career when they were 1 game from the World Series last year. They rolled the dice. Lee or Sowers were no guarantee starting the year either. Byrd is tough to gauge as well. We all know he is gone after this year, but I can't argue with the decision to go with him starting the year.