Cleveland Indians

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I respond to you to provide balance and nothing more. I understand what you're saying. I am not too stupid to wrap around anything. I am simply not going to state that James came into a model franchise and their system simply elevated him to a conference champion last year. That is almost what you insinuate by your nonsense on this subject. I know what that franchise was before James came the previous 10 years. It was a disgrace. No, they could not have reached the finals last year without 11 other guys on the team. Those 11 other guys provided decent play for the most part...but also not at times. James played poor games at times as well, but usually not. He is simply a part...but he is the MAIN part to the revival of a completely hideous franchise.

I mean, Frank Ryan, Gary Collins, Paul Warfield, Gene Hickerson et al were all very key components on the last Cleveland champion in 1964...but let's not kid ourselves on who the MAIN part of that franchise was. They won the title in '64, played for the title in '65 then the guy retired. That team has yet to play in another championship game.

It is quite comical to read your postings on this guy when you had 35 years to witness the Cavalier franchise before James joined the franchise and after.

(let's not kid ourselves Avery, it is not I with the problem. I have not started a single thread on LeBron James on this forum. Have you??) ...I am simply a responder! I get it, you don't think highly of the guy.

I can only simply state , once again, that if you were the brightest bulb in the bank--------- night baseball could not exist.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

I can only simply state , once again, that if you were the brightest bulb in the bank--------- night baseball could not exist.

OOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

[horseofcourse]

I've missed ya Avery how's it going?? Classic borowski meltdown a couple nights ago. Good for the team however...every time he had one last year...the team would respond and win the next game and pretty regularly for a couple weeks.

They're struggling with the sticks again...reminds of the July to Mid August period last year when they completely stopped hitting. Of course they look like the '27 Yankees compared to the Tiggers!!!

[Mortimer]

That was a beauty all right.


The hitting shut down certainly is a major concern given the guaranteed black hole in left field.


Another guarantee----Sabbathia is melting from the contact pressure. He should have a really stinky-poo year.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

That was a beauty all right.


The hitting shut down certainly is a major concern given the guaranteed black hole in left field.


Another guarantee----Sabbathia is melting from the contact pressure. He should have a really stinky-poo year.

No...he's never had one of those ever. He may win 13 games with a 4 ERA...but his track record suggests he won't stink considering he never has...unless he's injured. He's not the best "pressure" pitcher in the game based on his post season last year, but hard for me to imagine a complete bad year for him. Guess it's possible he could start pressing the more mediocre to bad starts he has.

[Mortimer]

Oh...he's never had one so that makes it impossible for it to happen.




It took him 4 years or so to get his delicate brain up to speed with his talent. Then he hist the play-offs and crumbles from.....the pressure.


Hey...don't listen to me about the Tigers or Sabbathia.




Or about the greatest basketball player ever and his completely inept teammates.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Avery_Smartman

Oh...he's never had one so that makes it impossible for it to happen.




It took him 4 years or so to get his delicate brain up to speed with his talent. Then he hist the play-offs and crumbles from.....the pressure.


Hey...don't listen to me about the Tigers or Sabbathia.




Or about the greatest basketball player ever and his completely inept teammates.

Well, no. I consider stinky-poo to be Cliff Lee last year. I don't think he'll win 5 games with an ERA over 6. If you consider stinky poo 11 wins and a 4.50 ERA, yes, he can do that. I'm not gonna panic from 2 bad starts. He actually only had one BAD start in postseason...the other two were mediocre.