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Old 08-03-2006, 08:24 PM
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I only think your crazy because you watched a horse break his leg 300 times over and over. Thats just plain sick. I couldnt watch it once.

It's the infraction part of it that I just can't swallow. Where he comes into him. Not the clip.

Right at the begining of the race you can see SNS, jump out right to Bernardinis side. So he even had more room by brushing Bernardini right, so how the hell 30 yrds later does he end up with a clip.
I thought the ride on SNS in the Preakness was horrible. He was way too close to very swift fractions. As brillant as Bernardini was in that race, I absolutely cannot watch the part where Barbaro broke down. I always fast forward it past that part and watch the rest of the race.

Like oracle, DaHoss and eveyone else said though, KD was most likely just trying to get postion in the beggining of the race and that is probably not what caused Barbaro's leg fracture. I didn't like the ride only for the reason stated above (too close to a fast pace). However, SNS liked to be on or near the lead anyway, and I think the horse was probably hard to ride because he was tired. He staggered down the lane swerving in and out of the rail like he was drunk.

That was just a horrible race. I keep praying that the boy is happy and pain-free and that he lives for horse racing.

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Old 08-03-2006, 08:29 PM
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You guys need ****ing counseling, you really do. If you watch the start of every race in America you will see what you describe. Happens in claimers, MSW's, and allowances. Its impossible to put 5-14 animals who weigh over 1000 pounds in quarters that tight and ot have bumping and banging.
Get over it. The horse broke his leg and we will never really understand the why and how. Its really time to get past this. I want the horse to live and think good thoughts for him often, but I think its a topic that has really been beat to death.
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:39 PM
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You guys need ****ing counseling, you really do. If you watch the start of every race in America you will see what you describe. Happens in claimers, MSW's, and allowances. Its impossible to put 5-14 animals who weigh over 1000 pounds in quarters that tight and ot have bumping and banging.
Get over it. The horse broke his leg and we will never really understand the why and how. Its really time to get past this. I want the horse to live and think good thoughts for him often, but I think its a topic that has really been beat to death.
Oracle,
I agree with what you said. Things happen very fast from the gate, but once the race unfolds there is more room for decisions.
Remember his ride on Real Quiet at Belmont?
'Nuf said.
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:00 PM
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I chalk that up to race riding...What should be talked about is Kent's ride in this year Derby....Told not to go to rail and he is their the WHOLE time. SNS makes a race of it if he follows Barbaro the whole time instead of trying to save ground...

I don't fault him for the ride on Real Quiet, he had no choice but to try and open up and ask god to help him the last inch. Man, going to watch that race right now again.....
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:33 PM
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[quote=kentuckyrosesinmay]
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I thought the ride on SNS in the Preakness was horrible. He was way too close to very swift fractions too. As brillant as Bernardini was in that race, I absolutely cannot watch the part where Barbaro broke down. I always fast forward it past that part and watch the rest of the race.
Yeah I can't watch this replay either so I am certainly no expert on Kent's ride in the race but my instinct tells me that, sure him moving over was probably partially responsible for the injury. Literally thousands of little things had to come together to cause that injury.
What if Matz had chosen a different post position?
Did an assistant starter make a noise that caused Barbaro to push through the gate?
If he hadn't pushed through the gate would he have gotten hurt?
It could go on forever, and I'll take your word for it that we can add KD's ride to the list. But if he didn't do anything that was blatantly against the rules of the sport, or anything intentional, then I really don't see the point in "blaming" him.
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:36 PM
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Well said as right. As much as I hope Barbaro pulls through, I am sick of hearing his name, and only want to if its good news.

Gosh, we are embarking on just about teh best time of year for horse racing...
Saratoga, then Belmont/Keeneland Fall leading up to BC.

Theres so much more to talk about than Barbaro.
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:39 PM
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Yeah I can't watch this replay either so I am certainly no expert on Kent's ride in the race but my instinct tells me that, sure him moving over was probably partially responsible for the injury. Literally thousands of little things had to come together to cause that injury.
What if Matz had chosen a different post position?
Did an assistant starter make a noise that caused Barbaro to push through the gate?
If he hadn't pushed through the gate would he have gotten hurt?
It could go on forever, and I'll take your word for it that we can add KD's ride to the list. But if he didn't do anything that was blatantly against the rules of the sport, or anything intentional, then I really don't see the point in "blaming" him.
Like DaHoss and oracle said, we will never know what really caused Barbaro to get hurt (I edited my first post on this thread and added that in as well as the part that I didn't think KD's ride was responsible for Barbaro's injury, and that I quit trying to figure out what had caused his injury two months ago). It's horse racing and it happened. All we can do now is pray that the boy is happy and pain-free.
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