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Old 03-25-2008, 10:58 AM
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Bull Inthe Heather won the Gr 1 Florida Derby - but was 2-for-32 other wise, and the majority of his career earnings came from the Florida Derby.

Free Spirits Joy won the Super Derby when it was a Grade 1 race with a $1 million purse. He was 35/1 and rode the rail under Borel (who probably carried the same buzzer that day as he did when he rode Rockamundo and Seek Gold)

Best Pal, Olympio, and Lite Light were all in that race.
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Old 03-25-2008, 11:11 AM
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I think Sarava fits the bill. He won a MSW, the Sir Barton and the Belmont. He is still eligible for a NW3X...
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Old 03-25-2008, 11:24 AM
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For a Grade I winner, I'd have to go with Scorpion.
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Old 03-25-2008, 11:28 AM
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I always assumed Giacomo was the worst. He was much better than some of these now that I think about it. Of course, why would I ever have thought about it before?
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Old 03-25-2008, 11:34 AM
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This list could be a mile long....

I'll start with Marylebone..
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Old 03-25-2008, 12:45 PM
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Jazil

I forgot about him until now!
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Jazil

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I guarantee that Cowtown Cat is EXACTLY the ninth worst G2 winner of all-time.

I have no idea who the top eight might be, but he is without question number nine on that list.
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Old 03-25-2008, 08:08 PM
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I guarantee that Cowtown Cat is EXACTLY the ninth worst G2 winner of all-time.

I have no idea who the top eight might be.
Must be the 16th worse...
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Old 03-25-2008, 02:03 PM
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Bull Inthe Heather won the Gr 1 Florida Derby - but was 2-for-32 other wise, and the majority of his career earnings came from the Florida Derby.

Free Spirits Joy won the Super Derby when it was a Grade 1 race with a $1 million purse. He was 35/1 and rode the rail under Borel (who probably carried the same buzzer that day as he did when he rode Rockamundo and Seek Gold)

Best Pal, Olympio, and Lite Light were all in that race.

I think he updated it around Seek Gold time. New technology...
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Old 03-25-2008, 09:21 PM
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Free Spirits Joy won the Super Derby when it was a Grade 1 race with a $1 million purse. He was 35/1 and rode the rail under Borel (who probably carried the same buzzer that day as he did when he rode Rockamundo and Seek Gold)

Best Pal, Olympio, and Lite Light were all in that race.
I think your buzzer statement is a bit over the top. I was there and watched race from apron. Fastest horse won, period.

Shippers like Best Pal from California did not like hot, humid conditions that afternoon. Free Spirits Joy was well acclimated to ambient conditions. FSJ was Louisiana-bred based at LaD. Also, it has been documented by others, such as Steve Davidowitz in his last edition of Betting Thoroughbreds, that track was packed, rock hard, superhighway along rail. Another testament is final time 2:00.4. Atypically fast when compared with previous 1-1/4 mile editions of Super Derby in that era.

As for Borel, Boo just schooled out-of-towners with his "home court" advantage of knowing that rail was lightning fast that day. Jockeys are like shippers because sometimes they don't like new surrondings.

Now, I do concur that FSJ is one of the worst Grade I winners ever.
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No takers on this guy?

http://www.drf.com/row/pps/bishopcourthill.pdf
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Is there a Saarland fan club here that's blocking that nomination? I was looking up a couple I remembered and while he only managed a G3, how 'bout another Lukas nominee, Buckle Down Ben. For the G2 threshold there's Fifty Stars and Spanish Chestnut. Not that they weren't once interesting but they're one hit wonders really, that's all. Does anybody care to sing the praises of Onion?

PS. I happen to enjoy Wonder Lady Anne L to a degree. She did beat Wait a While for a G2 and Pine Island for her G1. Of course not the fastest races on the planet but oh well..I'm rooting for Real Quiet as a sire so it's hard for me to vote against her.
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I might have topped myself after a little research. Dawn of War was a GRADE I winning colt and was strikingly mediocre.
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Old 03-27-2008, 08:25 AM
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I might have topped myself after a little research. Dawn of War was a GRADE I winning colt and was strikingly mediocre.
He also died before the end of his 3yo season. Tough to hold that against him.
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How about Almutawakel winning the Dubai World Cup?
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