War Pass --DB ?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I will never view Zito in the same light again. As if Bellamy Road wasn't enough, but I could understand the Travers because it was a really big race and they were only going to be able to get one more race out of the horse anyway. Plus, I'm sure he had pressure from the owners.

This is a different situation

that race by bellamy road gets a lot of respect from a lot of people. zito got an unsound horse to win the wood in record time, by an incredible margin, and then trained him to what is judged to be BR's best effort ever. yeah, i can see why some would have a problem with zito....


you have a horse today that allegedly had a bit of fever earlier in the week, running on a new surface to him, and he suffered some bad luck at the break, and a race that unfolded in a brand new way for war pass. any of those on their own may not have been enough to stop this horse, but if you add all together, then you have a different result...whether all those factors contributed to war passes loss today, i don't know. i am unwilling to second guess a hall of fame trainer, and considering war pass to this point, i'm not yet ready to say that this horse isn't a top horse. he just showed he's not unbeatable--but then, how many are?

we often see in this sport that owners and trainers begin to believe all the hype about a horse, and start thinking the particular horse can walk on water. and just about as often, you see them brought down a peg...or three!


i remember when a another zito horse faced a field that he just couldn't help but beat. regardless of the track, who cares if it was sealed....he should have walked all over the others, as he was much the best. birdstone ran up the track that day, and zito was angrier than i've ever seen a person before.

yeah, birdstone showed his true self that day.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I sure do hope Zito was sitting down when he was given the news most people fear. That KYRIM no longer views you in the same light again. I remember when someone told me and I'm still not over it.

he may be so despondent, i wouldn't be surprised if he retired.

[The Bid]

Hoss hearing that would put anyone back in their seat

[Scav]

I highly doubt that Zito would run a horse that just had a fever a week ago, I just don't see him operating that way.

[King Glorious]

I'm surprised that the announcement hasn't been made yet. It will be before the weekend is up. He's done.

[Left Bank]

I may be wrong,but didn't this same thing happen to Commentator a few years back at Gulfstream?? Zito brought him back in a cheap 65 k stake at Aqueduct on the inner,then he went to Gulf,was the talk of the town,and finished dead last???...

[pick4]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

I may be wrong,but didn't this same thing happen to Commentator a few years back at Gulfstream?? Zito brought him back in a cheap 65 k stake at Aqueduct on the inner,then he went to Gulf,was the talk of the town,and finished dead last???...

Must be a different horse. Commentator has never run at Aqueduct and he's 2 for 3 at Gulfstream Park with a 7th place finish out of 12 horses in the Hal Hope Handicap on January 5, 2005.

[pick4]

Originally Posted by Scav

I highly doubt that Zito would run a horse that just had a fever a week ago, I just don't see him operating that way.

According to the owner that's exactly what they did.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/93015.html Paragraph four

[Travis Stone]

Unless the horse is physically hurt, I would be shocked if they tossed out a KY Derby bid. These come along rarely for folks and when you get a runner, the retirement factors in only with serious injury or its post-Triple Crown.