Now does anyone still believe?...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

“He is better than Ghostzapper and Pleasantly Perfect” (No doubt, remember he is just a 3yr old and getting better, I can't imagine how good he will be by BC Classic time- remember he is an AP Indy)

I haven't had the chance to completely go through this thread, but I hope somebody's pointed out to boldruler that not all AP Indy's improve with age. To wit:

Pulpit - six starts to three, sire of more fragile horses than I can count
Stephen got Even - won a single race as a 4YO, started nary 11 times in his career
Friends Lake - seven starts to three, never heard from again after Florida Derby win
A P Valentine - 2YO success, retired to stud in....TEXAS!

Anyway, it's complete fallacy that just because horses like Mineshaft and Congrats had pretty good careers after the age of three that all AP Indy's improve with age. In fact, if you look at the sons of sons of AP Indy, their careers are even shorter (Stevie Wonderboy, Tapit). Shoot, it's not like Seattle Slew was exactly a sound horse either.

ap valentine ended up in texas as he has a disorder and will only get a fraction of mares bred in foal. there's nothing they can do to change that.