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Originally Posted by Gander

Yankee fans must really hate David Ortiz. As bad as we are playing we should be 5 games out. This guy has kept us in. Man, you guys really be frustrated.
We need to pick things up and fast.

Tim you may be kidding yourself but you aren't kidding us one bit. Frustrated? We are overjoyed!!! It has to be you who can't believe that with no Cano, Sheff, or Matsui and a streak of 16 of 17 wins that its August 2nd and we are tied. If you had told me that after Sheff went down after Matsui I would never have believed it was possible, never. Jeter is hitting .353 and unlike cro magnon man, he actually also turns gems in the field while the other guy is hanging on the bench with the waterboy.
Hes an awesome hitting specimen, and incredible in the clutch, but no way would I trade Jeters average and clutch hitting and fielding and base stealing for Ortiz, no way.

[Gander]

Both are great. I'd say the best 2 in the game when you an opportunity is there.

But the way we have been playing since that crazy 11 game win streak? I consider ourselves lucky to be in a tie. How many games looked lost before Ortiz won with a walkoff hit since the streak? I have 4-5 games.

Its all 0-0. Let the fun begin!

[SCUDSBROTHER]

How is it a fair fight to have a 215 mil team against a 120 mil team? That's what I don't understand about Yankee fans.By definition it isn't a fair fight is it? You two act like nothing has changed since last week.Meanwhile,one team has added a 15 mil /year player,and the other has not.It isn't like one of the teams is a moneyball type team that relies on young talent freaking in a particular year(ala fish 2003.)So,the Yanks win this division pretty much each year.Isn't that like to be totally expected when you pay out almost 100 mil more than any other team in the division(or in mlb period.) I just think this odd difference in salary kind of makes the mlb look fixed.Then they let the fish cut their payroll to 14 mil.MLB needs to get some control of this sht.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

How is it a fair fight to have a 215 mil team against a 120 mil team? That's what I don't understand about Yankee fans.By definition it isn't a fair fight is it? You two act like nothing has changed since last week.Meanwhile,one team has added a 15 mil /year player,and the other has not.It isn't like one of the teams is a moneyball type team that relies on young talent freaking in a particular year(ala fish 2003.)So,the Yanks win this division pretty much each year.Isn't that like to be totally expected when you pay out almost 100 mil more than any other team in the division(or in mlb period.) I just think this odd difference in salary kind of makes the mlb look fixed.Then they let the fish cut their payroll to 14 mil.MLB needs to get some control of this sht.

It will never happen Scuds, not as long as the Yankees are in the biggest market city in MLB. MLB would stand to lose too much if they tried to control the spending.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by GPK

It will never happen Scuds, not as long as the Yankees are in the biggest market city in MLB. MLB would stand to lose too much if they tried to control the spending.

True story Kev.....Money is flowing...other teams profit from Yanks payroll...more people in the seats every year....and the band played on

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by GPK

It will never happen Scuds, not as long as the Yankees are in the biggest market city in MLB. MLB would stand to lose too much if they tried to control the spending.

Yep, really scared the hockey owners and NY was the biggest market city there too....this is just a bigger case of the same problem. When smaller markets start facing bankrupcy....the $hit will start to fly.

Hey, if people want LA, Detroit, Chicago, Toronto, NY, and Boston to be the only one with teams more power to them.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

How is it a fair fight to have a 215 mil team against a 120 mil team? That's what I don't understand about Yankee fans.By definition it isn't a fair fight is it? You two act like nothing has changed since last week.Meanwhile,one team has added a 15 mil /year player,and the other has not.It isn't like one of the teams is a moneyball type team that relies on young talent freaking in a particular year(ala fish 2003.)So,the Yanks win this division pretty much each year.Isn't that like to be totally expected when you pay out almost 100 mil more than any other team in the division(or in mlb period.) I just think this odd difference in salary kind of makes the mlb look fixed.Then they let the fish cut their payroll to 14 mil.MLB needs to get some control of this sht.

That's why the NFL is the best sports product in America, because even an embarrassment like the Bengals can be playoff contenders, with the correct drafting and coaching....

Nice buttkicking the Dodgers gave the Reds last night.. Do you remember when they were rivals? I can remember staying up as a kid to watch the Dodgers games when they were playing out in LA...

And now I have to zing Gander:

That was a nice pick on the Astros, doh....

Originally Posted by Pointg5

That's why the NFL is the best sports product in America, because even an embarrassment like the Bengals can be playoff contenders, with the correct drafting and coaching....

Nice buttkicking the Dodgers gave the Reds last night.. Do you remember when they were rivals? I can remember staying up as a kid to watch the Dodgers games when they were playing out in LA...

And now I have to zing Gander:

That was a nice pick on the Astros, doh....

If I had to guess I would say the Red Sox are not making the playoffs this year.

Amen to the NFL starting. Teddy Bruschi went down yesterday too. Here come the Jets.

[Gander]

I'll stick with the Astros. They will get hot and bulldoze down those 9 or 10 teams in front of them. If they do make the playoffs they would have to be considered strong favorites to win the NL, with Clemens, Petite and Oswalt going 1-2-3.

Red Sox are in trouble, I concede that. Still think they turn this around and bet the 215 mill Yankees. Can you guys believe the biggest fraud in baseball makes 20 mill a year?... and I am not talking about Bonds, I am talking about Giambi.

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by Gander

I'll stick with the Astros. They will get hot and bulldoze down those 9 or 10 teams in front of them. If they do make the playoffs they would have to be considered strong favorites to win the NL, with Clemens, Petite and Oswalt going 1-2-3.

Red Sox are in trouble, I concede that. Still think they turn this around and bet the 215 mill Yankees. Can you guys believe the biggest fraud in baseball makes 20 mill a year?... and I am not talking about Bonds, I am talking about Giambi.

ARod, Jeter, Giambi have the combined salaries of almost 40 % of the teams....

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Gander

I'll stick with the Astros. They will get hot and bulldoze down those 9 or 10 teams in front of them. If they do make the playoffs they would have to be considered strong favorites to win the NL, with Clemens, Petite and Oswalt going 1-2-3.

Red Sox are in trouble, I concede that. Still think they turn this around and bet the 215 mill Yankees. Can you guys believe the biggest fraud in baseball makes 20 mill a year?... and I am not talking about Bonds, I am talking about Giambi.

Clemens and Pettite are 12-15 combined, they get no run support, they are still 5 games behind the Reds for the Wild Card and 8.5 back of the Cardinals for the Division, stick a fork in them. The Reds have a cake schedule other than 7 games with the Cardinals, they will win the Wild Card...

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

That's why the NFL is the best sports product in America, because even an embarrassment like the Bengals can be playoff contenders, with the correct drafting and coaching....

Nice buttkicking the Dodgers gave the Reds last night.. Do you remember when they were rivals? I can remember staying up as a kid to watch the Dodgers games when they were playing out in LA...

And now I have to zing Gander:

That was a nice pick on the Astros, doh....

Yeah,the 70's were quite a war between the Reds n' Dodgers.Oakland reminds me very much of the defense that the Reds had back then.Dodgers trying to open up another can of whipa$$ on the Reds tonight.Lugo is a really good hitter.He was the toughest out when the Halos played Tampa.Betemit(whatever)is Furcal's best friend.All the sudden he gets his best friend to hang with,and he starts to hit.The Dodgers still have the best batting average in the National league(so I hear...METS???)The Dodger pitching has been the problem.Lowe is just not a reliable guy in the regular season.You can see where the problem is.Give the guy 10 mil a year,and he may go .500(if we are lucky.)The rookie catcher (Martin)is somebody you would want want your kid to be just like.Really a terrific individual.A weird team.Just seems to not be enough self-discipline (in general) on the team.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Yeah,the 70's were quite a war between the Reds n' Dodgers.Oakland reminds me very much of the defense that the Reds had back then.Dodgers trying to open up another can of whipa$$ on the Reds tonight.Lugo is a really good hitter.He was the toughest out when the Halos played Tampa.Betemit(whatever)is Furcal's best friend.All the sudden he gets his best friend to hang with,and he starts to hit.

4-0, when I get out of here at 9pm, it'll probably be even more. At least I can go to sleep instead of watching the beating.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

4-0, when I get out of here at 9pm, it'll probably be even more. At least I can go to sleep instead of watching the beating.

LOL...Dodgers picked off Freel at 1st base.I guess there was a dispute about whether time had been called.The umps had a pow wow.Then,the ump called him out.The fans in cincy(in the background down the right field line)didn't agree.One guy stood up right away and gave the finger to the umps.Funny thing is he did it with both hands.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

How is it a fair fight to have a 215 mil team against a 120 mil team? That's what I don't understand about Yankee fans.By definition it isn't a fair fight is it? You two act like nothing has changed since last week.Meanwhile,one team has added a 15 mil /year player,and the other has not.It isn't like one of the teams is a moneyball type team that relies on young talent freaking in a particular year(ala fish 2003.)So,the Yanks win this division pretty much each year.Isn't that like to be totally expected when you pay out almost 100 mil more than any other team in the division(or in mlb period.) I just think this odd difference in salary kind of makes the mlb look fixed.Then they let the fish cut their payroll to 14 mil.MLB needs to get some control of this sht.

AMEN!!!! The difference is only what four A-rods? NO its five Mannys