For Blackthroat & Big Brown (104 BSF) fans

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by philcski

Yeah, nice call... I should have known that. I liked that one a lot, probably his best US runner.

It's very possible this colt hits the frickin wall at a mile.. IMO more so then WP cant get 10f's..

Nothing wrong with an awesome miler Rosie...You maybe right about the horse and wrong about the course and distance...Maybe he is Lure 2?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by freddymo

It's very possible this colt hits the frickin wall at a mile.. IMO more so then WP cant get 10f's..

Nothing wrong with an awesome miler Rosie...You maybe right about the horse and wrong about the course and distance...Maybe he is Lure 2?

Nah, he actually ACCELERATED after setting a pretty wicked pace going a mile and a sixteenth in his debut. I could certainly be wrong but he's finished with energy both times...

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by philcski

Nah, he actually ACCELERATED after setting a pretty wicked pace going a mile and a sixteenth in his debut. I could certainly be wrong but he's finished with energy both times...

Phil..excellent post..Really enjoying the dialogue between you and Freddy

thought I would get this thread back on it's feet again

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by philcski

Nah, he actually ACCELERATED after setting a pretty wicked pace going a mile and a sixteenth in his debut. I could certainly be wrong but he's finished with energy both times...

Here's a comparison, by splits, to the Weekend Madness (R7), run the same day and won by Classic Neel.

Big Brown R5: 23.19 24.35 24.30 22.62 5.87

R7: 23.28 21.98 23.92 24.37 6.53

While he dropped the field when he accelerated, it's interesting that he didn't completely wipe them out, and some actually came back a bit (relatively) the last 1/16th. Of course, the maiden field was probably better than that he faced yesterday. But I think he was more impressive yesterday.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

from this point till he gets beat he wont see the turf imo

[Scav]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

from this point till he gets beat he wont see the turf imo

Not just gets beat, but runs poorly

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Scav

Not just gets beat, but runs poorly

you and i and ateam were on em in the maiden breaker..

[Scav]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

you and i and ateam were on em in the maiden breaker..

My last winner....

you have a crazy memory, that was like 7 months ago and you remember a post from back then....

[philcski]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

you and i and ateam were on em in the maiden breaker..

So was Sightseek and Kelly. Martin and I had put together a big pick 6 ticket and we only included him on a backup ticket because Ateam talked us into him. I think we busted on the next leg.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by freddymo

It's very possible this colt hits the frickin wall at a mile.. IMO more so then WP cant get 10f's..

Nothing wrong with an awesome miler Rosie...You maybe right about the horse and wrong about the course and distance...Maybe he is Lure 2?

I think the colt is very, very, very good, and I don't think he will have a problem with longer distances based on what he has done so far. I think he is more talented than War Pass. I think War Pass is also an exceptional individual, and I could be completely wrong about Big Brown, but it's just my prediction about who is going to end up being the better of the two at this point. They could both get injured and never meet up for all I know. Just my opinions....

[The Bid]

He beat a field of mediocre grass horses on the dirt. Lets not give him the Derby at this point. Hes certainly never ran with anything and wont like it when he does.

[Danzig]

might be tricky proving you're the number one three year old if you don't get to run in the derby....big brown, 2 starts, 2 wins. 0 graded earnings.

war pass, a dual gr 1 winner and eclipse champion. big brown better get cracking if he's going to prove how much more talented he is than the 2 yo champ and millionaire.

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

might be tricky proving you're the number one three year old if you don't get to run in the derby....big brown, 2 starts, 2 wins. 0 graded earnings.

war pass, a dual gr 1 winner and eclipse champion. big brown better get cracking if he's going to prove how much more talented he is than the 2 yo champ and millionaire.

Right, looks like he's got one shot at those earnings, if they're seriously trying to get him into the field.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Danzig

might be tricky proving you're the number one three year old if you don't get to run in the derby....big brown, 2 starts, 2 wins. 0 graded earnings.

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Sort of the same scenario Showing Up was in prior to the Lexington. I'd be happy as a fan if Big Brown developed to be as versatile.