Hank S and the Red Sox

[Cannon Shell]

I know hickory and the Yankee minions will hate this but they are a team with lots of declining (aging) players and pitchers that are a bit too inexperienced to get them through. I am a little worried that Cashman wont be fired and they may actually get through this year without killing Hughes, Chamberlain and Kennedy. Girardi left the Marlins staff in shambles and will kill these guys without Cashman watching over his shoulder. Damon, Giambi, Matsui and Abreu are all in decline, Posada almost has to regress, Mariano has slipped the last 2 years, the bullpen is still shaky outside of Joba, the right side of the infield is like Swiss cheese when Giambi plays 1st. Obviously ARod and Jeter are solid but they dont really have an ace like Cleveland, Boston, Detroit and the Angels (yes Scuds Lackey) and as soon as the pitchers get touched up a little Hank will go crazy and blame Cashman for not getting Santana. It will be fun to watch.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I know hickory and the Yankee minions will hate this but they are a team with lots of declining (aging) players and pitchers that are a bit too inexperienced to get them through. I am a little worried that Cashman wont be fired and they may actually get through this year without killing Hughes, Chamberlain and Kennedy. Girardi left the Marlins staff in shambles and will kill these guys without Cashman watching over his shoulder. Damon, Giambi, Matsui and Abreu are all in decline, Posada almost has to regress, Mariano has slipped the last 2 years, the bullpen is still shaky outside of Joba, the right side of the infield is like Swiss cheese when Giambi plays 1st. Obviously ARod and Jeter are solid but they dont really have an ace like Cleveland, Boston, Detroit and the Angels (yes Scuds Lackey) and as soon as the pitchers get touched up a little Hank will go crazy and blame Cashman for not getting Santana. It will be fun to watch.

I don't think that Cashman is making the decisions again. It is like the old days when George was making the moves. This is Hal's team (and while I am sure that Cashman didn't want to trade the kids for Santana), and if he wanted him that bad then they would have gotten him.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I don't think that Cashman is making the decisions again. It is like the old days when George was making the moves. This is Hal's team (and while I am sure that Cashman didn't want to trade the kids for Santana), and if he wanted him that bad then they would have gotten him.

Though we never really know, my take was that Hank wanted to do the deal yet was talked out of it by Cashman. If Santana blows up I'm sure hank will take the bows and say what a smart guys he is for not doing the deal. However if Santana goes 20-7, the Mets go to the WS and the Yankees miss the playoffs or get eliminated early I can see Hank blaming Cashman for not getting him. I dont think Cashman is calling the shots but they do listen to him. For now.

[MaTH716]

I really think that the Yanks were only after Santana because they couldn't afford for the Red Sox to get him. Look at what the Twins ended up getting from the Mets. If the Yanks wanted him that badly I am sure that they could have given the Twinkies a better package then the Mets did. Kennedy, Melky and another prospect might have got it done. But with the Bosox pulling out, the Yanks could afford to take a chance with the kids. I would like to know who's idea it was to give Posada all that money.

By the way, Blasted is the backpage headline in the NY Daily News and here's a story mentioning the dropping velocity of Santana's fastball. All this from the first 2 innings of his first spring training game.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...y_johan_s.html

WELCOME TO NY JOHAN.

[The Bid]

Chuck everything you said is right except the Indians have 2 aces

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Chuck everything you said is right except the Indians have 2 aces

2 1/2 if CC keeps eating like me