Gulfstream: Carding of races?

[jballscalls]

i'll bet a lot of people hung around after the fountain of youth to see him race. the longer they are on track, more they are likely to bet, and maybe just as important, the more they are likely to stay and eat and drink.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by jballscalls

i'll bet a lot of people hung around after the fountain of youth to see him race. the longer they are on track, more they are likely to bet, and maybe just as important, the more they are likely to stay and eat and drink.

And by that thinking, if War Pass had run in the 4th race people might have shown up earlier, and stayed just as long because the Fountain of Youth would have been the 10th instead of the 9th.

Gulfstream has repeatedly shown a lack of understanding of placement of races for Pick-4 and Pick-6 wagering. Today was no exception.

You would think if the wizards at Gulfstream were actually concerned about attendance and concessions that they would've scheduled the Fountain of Youth and the War Pass work on Saturday.

[philcski]

I think we all know what the problem is... THEY HIRED THE RACING SECRETARY FROM THISTLEDOWN!!!! That's like looking for the next Johan Santana in a beer league softball game.

[jballscalls]

Originally Posted by philcski

I think we all know what the problem is... THEY HIRED THE RACING SECRETARY FROM THISTLEDOWN!!!! That's like looking for the next Johan Santana in a beer league softball game.

everyone has to start somewhere dont they?? Johan Santana was in the minor leagues once wasnt he??

[philcski]

Originally Posted by jballscalls

everyone has to start somewhere dont they?? Johan Santana was in the minor leagues once wasnt he??

Absolutely, but he's writing cards like he's STILL at Thistledown. Part of stepping up is adapting to the situation you're in... and in this case it's carding ridiculous 10k maiden claimers just to "increase field size" (as per his proclamation at the beginning of the season.) I can ASSURE you... a competitive 8 horse allowance field is eminently more bettable than a 12 horse maiden claimer. Additionally, knowing that the late pick 4 is your higest multirace wager, if at all possible shuffling the uncompetitive races out of it like they do in Cali makes a lot of sense to increase handle.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by philcski

Additionally, knowing that the late pick 4 is your higest multirace wager, if at all possible shuffling the uncompetitive races out of it like they do in Cali makes a lot of sense to increase handle.

But the last race in So. Cal is often a 12 horse indecipherable maiden claimer? Field size is the biggest driver of handle.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by philcski

Absolutely, but he's writing cards like he's STILL at Thistledown. Part of stepping up is adapting to the situation you're in... and in this case it's carding ridiculous 10k maiden claimers just to "increase field size" (as per his proclamation at the beginning of the season.) I can ASSURE you... a competitive 8 horse allowance field is eminently more bettable than a 12 horse maiden claimer. Additionally, knowing that the late pick 4 is your higest multirace wager, if at all possible shuffling the uncompetitive races out of it like they do in Cali makes a lot of sense to increase handle.

Phil they only have X number of decent horses.. For whatever reason there aren't the horses to fill the type races we would like to see. So isn't better to get a Honda salesman then a Mercedes if all you have is Honda's on the lot?
There is Saratoga, Delmar, and to some degree Keeneland.. After that it's thistle city Baby..