SA C/O Contest: Cassie, AJ go 5/6!

[ArlJim78]

Caspiano is a single for me in the fourth. I just think he is more talented than this bunch and should probably not be running for a tag. in his debut against MSW's he finished well when the winner was Barbeque Eddie who was clear by 4.5 lengths. Barbeque Eddie came back to run third in the Ancient Title! The third place finisher from the debut race, Their He Goes, came back to beat MSW's going down the hill and looking very good. Caspiano went up to Fairplex to break his maiden and was much the best taking pace pressure from 3-4 different horses around both turns and he finished with something in reserve and won easily, two good interim works since that. Like I said he just seems better than your typical N2L group. So....

5 6 7 / 9 / 1 3 5 8 / 2 5 7 8 / 4 6 7 8 / 1 5 6 7 10 11 $2,304
2 / 9 / 1 3 5 8 / 2 5 7 8 / 7 / 1 5 6 7 10 11 $192
$2,496 total

[pmacdaddy]

Key scratched brutalized me... Here is second try.

Main Ticket (A,B)

R3 - 2,4,5,6,7
R4 - 2,3,4
R5 - 1,3,5,7
R6 - 2,3,7,10,12
R7 - 4
R8 - 6,10

$1,200


C Covers

2,5,7 / 2,3,4 / 8 / 2,7,10,12 / 4 / 6,10
$144

2,5,7 / 2,3,4 / 1,3,7 / 8 / 4 / 6,10
$108

2,5,7 / 2,3,4 / 1,3,7 / 2,7,10,12 / 7,8 / 6,10
$864

2,5,7 / 2,3,4 / 1,3,7 / 2 / 4 / 1,3,11
$162

GRAND TOTAL $2,478

[TheSpyder]

2,5/4,3/3,5/6,12/4,6/6,11 $128

4/4,3/3,5/6,12/4,6/6,11 $64

2,5/4,3/7/6,12/4,6/6,11 $64

2,5/4,3/3,5/6,12/4,6/10,12 $128

4/4,3/7/6,12/1,8/10,12 $32

All/all/3/6,12/4/6,10,11,12 $1120 Changes dur to scratches

[dellinger63]

OK I'll give it a try with the recomended method

Main 2,3,4,5,6/3,7,10/1,3,5,8/2,3/1,3,7,8/1,6 = $1,556

Backup 1/3,10/1,5/2,3/3,7/1,6 = $64

Backup 2,5/1,2,7/1,5/2,3/3,7/1,6 = $192

Backup 2,5/3,10/2/2,3/3,7/1,6 = $$64

Backup 2,5/3,10/1,5/7,8,10/3,7/1,6 = $192

Backup 2,5/3,10/1,5/2,3/2/1,6 = $$64

Backup 2,5/3,10/1,5/2,3/3,7/7,9,10 = $192

Total = $2,224

edited following Caspiano and Terrajaz scratches

[Bigsmc]

Main Ticket:

3 - 2,5,7
4 - 2,3,4,9
5 - 3,5,7
6 - 2,8,10,12
7 - 1,3,4,8
8 - 6,10

$2,304

Covers:

4//4,9//3,5//12//1,8//6,10 = $32
2,7//10//3,5//12//1,8//6,10 = $32
2,7//4,9//3,5//3//1,8//6,10 = $64
2,7//4,9//3,5//12//2,6//6,10 = $64

Total: $2,496
GL to all.

[cassie]

3rd 2,4,5,7,
4th 3,9
5th1,3,5
6th 2,3,7,12
7th 1,4,8
8th 1,6,10,11
$2,304

[zippyneedsawin]

2,3,5,7/3,4,6,7,9/3/2,8,12/,1,3,4,6,8/1,5,6,7 = $2,400

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

2/5 with 10/2 with 3/5 with 2/8/9/12 with 6/8/3 with all 1-11 =2,112

[NTamm1215]

Here's a crack at it:

2,4,5 / 2,3,4 / 1,3 / 2,8,12 / 4,8 / 1,3,11 ($648)

7 / 2,3,4 / 1,3 / 2,8,12 / 4,8 / 1,3,11 ($216)

2,4,5 / 1 / 1,3 / 2,8,12 / 4,8 / 1,3,11 ($216)

2,4,5 / 2,3,4 / 8 / 2,8,12 / 4,8 / 1,3,11 ($324)

2,4,5 / 2,3,4 / 1,3 / 9 / 4,8 / 1,3,11 ($216)

2,4,5 / 2,3,4 / 1,3 / 2,8,12 / 1 / 1,3,11 ($324)

2,4,5 / 2,3,4 / 1,3 / 2,8,12 / 4,8 / 6 ($216)

2,4,5 / 1 / 8 / 2,8,12 / 4,8 / 1,3,11 ($108)

2,4,5 / 1 / 1,3 / 9 / 4,8 / 1,3,11 ($72)

2,4,5 / 2,3,4 / 8 / 9 / 4,8 / 1,3,11 ($108)

Should keep me under the $2,500

Good luck to all!

NT

[Rootdog1]

Race 3
1 Refusal
3 Island Launch
4 Smoocher
7 Dr. Einstein

Race 4
2 Ready Say Go
3 Catch That Thief
4 Shootist
6 Shakin Jake

Race 5
3 Left Unsaid
7 Chevin
8 Guts

Race 6
1 Flying Bearcat
7 Currency Trader
11 McNasty
12 Zayed

Race 7
4 Big Bertha
7 Gothic Beauty
8 Cathrines Hope

Race 8
6 Dances with Tigers
10 Namirah

$2,304

2nd ticket
3)5,7
4)2,6
5)3,8
6)2,7,11
7)7,8
8)6,11
$192

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

2,3,5,7/3,4,6,7,9/3/2,8,12/,1,3,4,6,8/1,5,6,7 = $2,400

ticket change per scratches:


2,3,5,7/3,4,6,7,9/3/2,8,12/1,3,4,8/1,3,6,7,11=$2,400

[SCUDSBROTHER]

O.K., I am going back to Sports threads etc. Trust me,if you play these things,don't logically cap all 6 races.Cap 4,and figure they are gunna give out an unexpected lone lead,or some other b.s. advantage to whoever they see fit to give it to.You can't cap them all.If you did,then McNasty would be a decent capping pick in that 6th,and he would have won an honestly run race.There is a couple million up for grabs,and if you think they are gunna run all these 6 races honestly,then you will not win. It doesn't work to cap all 6.They read the form,and they gunna do shananigans in usually 2 of the 6 races.Maybe they intend to throw one,and having the rail out on the turf is just asking for crap to come in.You had better think opposite of that form for 2 races,because that's what these jocks are gunna make happen.If there are 3 horses that have speed(and have to get clear to win their races,)then in the 1st quarter mile only one will show speed.In the 2nd quarter mile the other speeds will make it look like they want to pressure it.Now.......STOP!!Watch closely,and see how they get up maybe close,but they never actually get to the horse.They make you think they want to get to that horse...they don't want to get to him.McNasty look like to you he was gunna catch that horse? It's an illusion.The horse who was supposed to win that race won that race.They know that horse will keep running if he clears...They let him clear...voila.....It's not complicated.There is money up for grabs,and they are gunna do opposite of logical capping.One or 2 races are gunna be this way(especially with a big pot.)If you simply remember that the carpet is gunna get pulled out from under people who cap hard,then you will win.They know exactly what the capper thinks should happen,and they are gunna do the opposite(in 1 or 2 legs.) This is real life,and that's what they are doing out there.You have to bet like they think,and the way they think is to do the exact opposite of what that form says(for atleast one of the 6 legs.)

[pmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

O.K., I am going back to Sports threads etc. Trust me,if you play these things,don't logically cap all 6 races.Cap 4,and figure they are gunna give out an unexpected lone lead,or some other b.s. advantage to whoever they see fit to give it to.You can't cap them all.If you did,then McNasty would be a decent capping pick in that 6th,and he would have won an honestly run race.There is a couple million up for grabs,and if you think they are gunna run all these 6 races honestly,then you will not win. It doesn't work to cap all 6.They read the form,and they gunna do shananigans in usually 2 of the 6 races.Maybe they intend to throw one,and having the rail out on the turf is just asking for crap to come in.You had better think opposite of that form for 2 races,because that's what these jocks are gunna make happen.If there are 3 horses that have speed(and have to get clear to win their races,)then in the 1st quarter mile only one will show speed.In the 2nd quarter mile the other speeds will make it look like they want to pressure it.Now.......STOP!!Watch closely,and see how they get up maybe close,but they never actually get to the horse.They make you think they want to get to that horse...they don't want to get to him.McNasty look like to you he was gunna catch that horse? It's an illusion.The horse who was supposed to win that race won that race.They know that horse will keep running if he clears...They let him clear...voila.....It's not complicated.There is money up for grabs,and they are gunna do opposite of logical capping.One or 2 races are gunna be this way(especially with a big pot.)If you simply remember that the carpet is gunna get pulled out from under people who cap hard,then you will win.They know exactly what the capper thinks should happen,and they are gunna do the opposite(in 1 or 2 legs.) This is real life,and that's what they are doing out there.You have to bet like they think,and the way they think is to do the exact opposite of what that form says(for atleast one of the 6 legs.)

Are you saying "somebody" fixed the pick6?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy

Are you saying "somebody" fixed the pick6?

Let Scuds go, it is like when an elephant gets loose from the zoo, don't try and stop him

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

O.K., I am going back to Sports threads etc. Trust me,if you play these things,don't logically cap all 6 races.Cap 4,and figure they are gunna give out an unexpected lone lead,or some other b.s. advantage to whoever they see fit to give it to.You can't cap them all.If you did,then McNasty would be a decent capping pick in that 6th,and he would have won an honestly run race.There is a couple million up for grabs,and if you think they are gunna run all these 6 races honestly,then you will not win. It doesn't work to cap all 6.They read the form,and they gunna do shananigans in usually 2 of the 6 races.Maybe they intend to throw one,and having the rail out on the turf is just asking for crap to come in.You had better think opposite of that form for 2 races,because that's what these jocks are gunna make happen.If there are 3 horses that have speed(and have to get clear to win their races,)then in the 1st quarter mile only one will show speed.In the 2nd quarter mile the other speeds will make it look like they want to pressure it.Now.......STOP!!Watch closely,and see how they get up maybe close,but they never actually get to the horse.They make you think they want to get to that horse...they don't want to get to him.McNasty look like to you he was gunna catch that horse? It's an illusion.The horse who was supposed to win that race won that race.They know that horse will keep running if he clears...They let him clear...voila.....It's not complicated.There is money up for grabs,and they are gunna do opposite of logical capping.One or 2 races are gunna be this way(especially with a big pot.)If you simply remember that the carpet is gunna get pulled out from under people who cap hard,then you will win.They know exactly what the capper thinks should happen,and they are gunna do the opposite(in 1 or 2 legs.) This is real life,and that's what they are doing out there.You have to bet like they think,and the way they think is to do the exact opposite of what that form says(for atleast one of the 6 legs.)

who are THEY, and do you think THEY conspired to hit the pk6 and the the reason McNasty didn't win is because he wasn't supposed to? I guess THEY were also so clever that THEY knew Shootist would win by a head and Currency Trader by a neck. what are you smoking?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

who are THEY, and do you think THEY conspired to hit the pk6 and the the reason McNasty didn't win is because he wasn't supposed to? I guess THEY were also so clever that THEY knew Shootist would win by a head and Currency Trader by a neck. what are you smoking?

I have been watching horses for over 25 years,and yes,these jocks throw some races(that 6th race today was a thrown race.) He was the horse they wanted to win the race.The they is the jocks involved with not going with this horse out of the gate.So incredible how people just accept the absurd.There is plenty of speed in the race,and yet this horse gets no pressure at all until after the 1st quarter...none...You want to laugh at me,but the facts are the facts.I laugh at those who think that was a legit run race.You would need to be a true addict to think that was a legit run race.There are atleast 3 horses in there that don't win unless they are very close to the lead.So,when you see only one speed horse show up it's not an accident.It's golden to them.To know who is gunna clear? That's money to them.If you want to continue to believe that there was just one speed horse in that race,then fine,but I doubt you thought that before.You have carved out that new view,because you want to believe it's a fair race.It was a fake race,and if you wanna live in fantasyland,you can.

[2Hot4TV]

QUE????? Boat races everyday at my beloved Santa Anita?

[TitanSooner]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I have been watching horses for over 25 years,and yes,these jocks throw some races(that 6th race today was a thrown race.) He was the horse they wanted to win the race.The they is the jocks involved with not going with this horse out of the gate.So incredible how people just accept the absurd.There is plenty of speed in the race,and yet this horse gets no pressure at all until after the 1st quarter...none...You want to laugh at me,but the facts are the facts.I laugh at those who think that was a legit run race.You would need to be a true addict to think that was a legit run race.There are atleast 3 horses in there that don't win unless they are very close to the lead.So,when you see only one speed horse show up it's not an accident.It's golden to them.To know who is gunna clear? That's money to them.If you want to continue to believe that there was just one speed horse in that race,then fine,but I doubt you thought that before.You have carved out that new view,because you want to believe it's a fair race.It was a fake race,and if you wanna live in fantasyland,you can.

On CJ's numbers, not only did this horse have the high early speed fig, but the top race out for the last 3 races..

Not saying race fixing doesn't happen, I just don't believe it happened here.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I have been watching horses for over 25 years,and yes,these jocks throw some races(that 6th race today was a thrown race.) He was the horse they wanted to win the race.The they is the jocks involved with not going with this horse out of the gate.So incredible how people just accept the absurd.There is plenty of speed in the race,and yet this horse gets no pressure at all until after the 1st quarter...none...You want to laugh at me,but the facts are the facts.I laugh at those who think that was a legit run race.You would need to be a true addict to think that was a legit run race.There are atleast 3 horses in there that don't win unless they are very close to the lead.So,when you see only one speed horse show up it's not an accident.It's golden to them.To know who is gunna clear? That's money to them.If you want to continue to believe that there was just one speed horse in that race,then fine,but I doubt you thought that before.You have carved out that new view,because you want to believe it's a fair race.It was a fake race,and if you wanna live in fantasyland,you can.

The P6 paid FIVE TIMES the parlay value yesterday. Don't you think there would have been more winners if it truly had been rigged?

Currency Trader figured to get the lead as he had much the highest pace figs. I didn't like the horse as he's a confirmed quitter but used him anyways given he might get away with it at every call. Just because there's a lot of 1's in the other horses' running lines doesn't mean they were fast enough to catch him, c'mon, you know that.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

I have been watching horses for over 25 years,and yes,these jocks throw some races(that 6th race today was a thrown race.) He was the horse they wanted to win the race.The they is the jocks involved with not going with this horse out of the gate.So incredible how people just accept the absurd.There is plenty of speed in the race,and yet this horse gets no pressure at all until after the 1st quarter...none...You want to laugh at me,but the facts are the facts.I laugh at those who think that was a legit run race.You would need to be a true addict to think that was a legit run race.There are atleast 3 horses in there that don't win unless they are very close to the lead.So,when you see only one speed horse show up it's not an accident.It's golden to them.To know who is gunna clear? That's money to them.If you want to continue to believe that there was just one speed horse in that race,then fine,but I doubt you thought that before.You have carved out that new view,because you want to believe it's a fair race.It was a fake race,and if you wanna live in fantasyland,you can.

talk about living in a fantasyland? you throw out statements like "that's money to them", please explain how it money to them.

yes I laugh at you because you have offered no facts. I handicapped that race pretty closely and was on the mark. It is posted in the other thread. No one tipped me off that Currency Trader was the play. I liked the look of his form and speed, and the fact that Baze was riding him instead of the outside horse. I was suspect of the FPX form translating to SA for these cheap horses. its actually way more absurd to accept your idea that it was a thrown race and that people like Migliore participated in it, than it is to accept that it was legit. btw, how many other races were thrown yesterday in your opinion? and even if you are correct that it was thrown, how does throwing one race lead to catching the pick six? how exactly did all the jockeys that supposedly participated in the fix actually make a profit? saying you watched races for 25 years means nothing to me if when you make statements like this. it reminds me of the oldtimers that have been at the track for 50 years and you see them muttering to themselves when they lose talking about crooked jockeys, fixed races, etc. always some big conspiracy is the reason that they lost.
I'm not naive enough to think that cheating is never part of the equation, but to imply that it involves almost the entire jockey colony and that you are so sharp that you can catch it just by observation of the race is preposterous.
reminds me of another poster we have that realized that a buzzer was used by a jockey just by looking at the results chart! we sure have some sharpies on here.