Dylan Thomas wins the Arc.....maybe..

[Cannon Shell]

30 minute inquiry

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

30 minute inquiry

what, they hired nfl replay officials??

[Hoist Her Flag]

He cut off half the field. This is total politics throw his butt down.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Damn those French!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs

[Hoist Her Flag]

So it took 40 minutes to determine nothing happened. The horse I saw cut off half the field, really didn't?

[Cannon Shell]

Not knowing much about the rules of racing in France I would say they probably made the correct call or no call. He did cross over and cause a few to steady behind him but didn't look bad enough to warrant a DQ

[hockey2315]

That was sort of an upset, right?

[NoChanceToDance]

To try and put what happened in context:

In Britain and Ireland the result would have been UNCHANGED.

In America the result would have been CHANGED.

In France....... no one has a clue what will happen. In those instances, it is fifty fifty. I hate to say it, but if a French horse had been placed second, i'm pretty confident the result WOULD have been changed.

The european rules vary between countries. They are much more relaxed than the rules you have in America.

Although Dylan Thomas did cut across a couple of horses, the horses that suffered were beaten at the time and had no chance of winning. Most of the countries in Europe use the rule of "did the interference change the outcome of the race?" and if they can't be sure it did, they usually let the result stand.

I hope Dylan goes to Monmouth now........ but i doubt he will.

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

That was sort of an upset, right?

An upset to the mugs that thought Authorized was already home and hosed. Authorized is an overrated horse, who looks very good on soft turf, but as soon as it's a level playing field (like it was today) he couldn't handle it and finished almost last.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

To try and put what happened in context:

In Britain and Ireland the result would have been UNCHANGED.

In America the result would have been CHANGED.

.

Depends on where in America. Some stewards let everything go and other places, almost everything comes down.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

To try and put what happened in context:

In Britain and Ireland the result would have been UNCHANGED.

In America the result would have been CHANGED.

In France....... no one has a clue what will happen. In those instances, it is fifty fifty. I hate to say it, but if a French horse had been placed second, i'm pretty confident the result WOULD have been changed.

The european rules vary between countries. They are much more relaxed than the rules you have in America.

Although Dylan Thomas did cut across a couple of horses, the horses that suffered were beaten at the time and had no chance of winning. Most of the countries in Europe use the rule of "did the interference change the outcome of the race?" and if they can't be sure it did, they usually let the result stand.

I hope Dylan goes to Monmouth now........ but i doubt he will.

then it sounds as tho they made the right call.

[miraja2]

Danehill has been dead for over 4 years now, but his amazing accomplishments as a sire just continue to pile up.

[cmorioles]

I was there, so I won't pretend to have had the best vantage point, but did he actually cost any horses position? He certainly didn't cause the runner up and problems, so the best horse was left as the winner. What is the big deal?

England does it the best, by the way.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I was there, so I won't pretend to have had the best vantage point, but did he actually cost any horses position? He certainly didn't cause the runner up and problems, so the best horse was left as the winner. What is the big deal?

England does it the best, by the way.

CJ he's in the alley,
With his pointy shoes and bells,
Speaking to some French Girls,
Who say they know me well.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance

To try and put what happened in context:

In Britain and Ireland the result would have been UNCHANGED.

In America the result would have been CHANGED.

In France....... no one has a clue what will happen. In those instances, it is fifty fifty. I hate to say it, but if a French horse had been placed second, i'm pretty confident the result WOULD have been changed.

The european rules vary between countries. They are much more relaxed than the rules you have in America.

Although Dylan Thomas did cut across a couple of horses, the horses that suffered were beaten at the time and had no chance of winning. Most of the countries in Europe use the rule of "did the interference change the outcome of the race?" and if they can't be sure it did, they usually let the result stand.

I hope Dylan goes to Monmouth now........ but i doubt he will.

O'Brien said he is now coming for the BC Turf. That also means Fallon won't have the mount either.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/89228.html

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

CJ he's in the alley,
With his pointy shoes and bells,
Speaking to some French Girls,
Who say they know me well.

Wait.. It's a cypher! Does this mean CJ's siding with Shakespeare in the Cup???

I feel 'stuck inside o' Mobile'... again.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Wait.. It's a cypher! Does this mean CJ's siding with Shakespeare in the Cup???

I feel 'stuck inside o' Mobile'... again.

I'll let you know when you have me on At the Races.

It has been a good year...Saratoga, The Curragh, Longchamps, and even a day at Monmouth!

[NoChanceToDance]

Originally Posted by GPK

O'Brien said he is now coming for the BC Turf. That also means Fallon won't have the mount either.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/89228.html

Really?

They had said that if he won the Arc, that would be his last run.

[brockguy]

The French rules are ridiculously strict and he should have been taken down according to them, even though he was the best horse in the race. He took Zambezi out of the race (he wouldnt have won anyway), caused interference with Saddez and Soldier Of Fortune. As No Chance said in Ireland or England, there would be no change but I was so shocked that they didnt dq him...Ive seen much less in France get thrown out (Price Tag in the French 1000 last year was strange!) and I feel that if it wasnt the Arc, he would have been dqed. Also the cynical in me feels that if it was a french horse 2nd, he would have been dqed as well. Best horse won, but according to French rules, he should have been gone.