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Old 09-24-2007, 11:48 AM
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Why ? It had to be because it'd s kinder surface to him physically/ With all this talk about poly being a closer's surface why does the front runner Hard Spun loom large here ?
i didn't know poly was supposed to only favor closers...didn't seem the case when hard spun won on it in the spring.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:36 PM
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i didn't know poly was supposed to only favor closers...didn't seem the case when hard spun won on it in the spring.
There were about 4 mules, 3 donkeys, and 3 slugs in the field along with Hard Spun...if memory serves.
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Old 09-24-2007, 12:46 PM
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There were about 4 mules, 3 donkeys, and 3 slugs in the field along with Hard Spun...if memory serves.
but which of those were the closers this track was supposed to favor??
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:20 PM
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I will say, first off, that I literally pay attention to Turfway twice yearly, so my comments may be way off, that's why I'd like other opinions. But, all I can recall from last year's Ky Cup and this year's Lane's End card was that speed was golden. I don't recall any winners from off the pace.

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Old 09-24-2007, 01:46 PM
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How do you think Borel will ride Street Sense?

Is he going to stay outside, and near the front, so he doesn't eat that kickback?
If he doesn't, does he have a chance to win? If he does, is that the form they want to carry to the BC?
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Old 09-24-2007, 01:59 PM
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it seems to me the poly bashers always complain that poly kills speed and favors closers, regardless of the track. are we seeing a shift away from that position by the poly bashers ?
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Old 09-24-2007, 02:21 PM
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it seems to me the poly bashers always complain that poly kills speed and favors closers, regardless of the track. are we seeing a shift away from that position by the poly bashers ?
Come on man.
Not EVERY closer in the world ALWAYS is going to benefit from EVERY synthetic surface.
SOME synthetic surfaces tend to favor SOME closers (at least more than dirt).
Street Sense seems to be a closer that does not like poly. It happens. That doesn't mean that everybody needs to change whatever their opinion is on synthetic surfaces.
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:46 PM
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I will say, first off, that I literally pay attention to Turfway twice yearly, so my comments may be way off, that's why I'd like other opinions. But, all I can recall from last year's Ky Cup and this year's Lane's End card was that speed was golden. I don't recall any winners from off the pace.

Am I completely wrong?

NT
Not completely. I follow Turfway on a weekly basis and it has been playing relatively fair. Lanes End this year on the undercard in the Rushaway Dominican ran a huge race from off the pace. Last year in the Kentucky Cup there were also quite a few from off the pace with the obvious exception of Ball Four's thievery.
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