Time to stop the open funding of terrorism!

Originally Posted by pgardn

Syria and Iran are going to feel what it is like to use others to suffer for their zealotry.

Let us pray so.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Let us pray so.

AS usual you are wrong.

Israel cannot get to the root of Hezbollah by lobbing missile at Lebanon. There are two things you won't see the Israelis do:

1. Support the Coalition forces in Iraq.
2. Send ground troops into Lebanon to truly battle Hezbollah.

Israel NEVER uses ground troops.

These extreme groups exist and are legitimized/embraced by the oppressed Palestinians for the sole reason to fight the battle the Palestinians cannot.

Remove the only legitimizing factor which of course is the lack of peace and any meaningful Western effort to work toward it and you will eliminate Hezbollah.

It is funny how these radical rightists twist anything that someone says that disagrees with Israeli or American strategy or tactics and turns it into the stereotpical "you hate America" or "you hate jews."

It is simply a case of someone seeing the world different than you do. And you cannot acccept the fact that nearly all of the rest of the world feels you are wrong.

You've lost your precious Newt Gingrich. At least you have Sean Hannity to hold on to.

Originally Posted by SentToStud

AS usual you are wrong.

Israel cannot get to the root of Hezbollah by lobbing missile at Lebanon. There are two things you won't see the Israelis do:

1. Support the Coalition forces in Iraq.
2. Send ground troops into Lebanon to truly battle Hezbollah.

Israel NEVER uses ground troops.

These extreme groups exist and are legitimized/embraced by the oppressed Palestinians for the sole reason to fight the battle the Palestinians cannot.

Remove the only legitimizing factor which of course is the lack of peace and any meaningful Western effort to work toward it and you will eliminate Hezbollah.

It is funny how these radical rightists twist anything that someone says that disagrees with Israeli or American strategy or tactics and turns it into the stereotpical "you hate America" or "you hate jews."

It is simply a case of someone seeing the world different than you do. And you cannot acccept the fact that nearly all of the rest of the world feels you are wrong.

You've lost your precious Newt Gingrich. At least you have Sean Hannity to hold on to.

Hezbollah and Hamas will never go away as long as there are countries that are willing to pay cash for bodies willing to destroy Israel. Make no mistake. There are some very smart people within these groups that live very well that would never die for "the cause". They are profiting from this conflict. And Israel will continue to battle these groups until they provide security for their citizens. If this means bad patches of time with missles lobbed in, they will take them out. The missiles will eventually return if funding does not stop. And Israel will take them out. Israel is in this for the long haul. They know that their citizens will NEVER be fully safe as long as other countries with the tryrannical governments fund misguided human bombs. The citizens of Israel understand this. The world will see these messes continue until countries come to the realization that Israel is not leaving the map, and they will adapt to the terrorists as necessary. Forever, if that what it takes. So what will continue to take place is innocent people will pay the price, mostly in the Muslim states in which terrorists roam with impunity. The terrorists will continue to hide behind their innocent human shields, using them as political fodder. These people do not value human lives, any. It has become an industry. Use misguided poor youth, make them into killers, and then profit from the proceeds from countries that can spend money harrassing Israel using the blood of others.

There are very clearly good guys and bad guys in this conflict.

We may just have to accept the fact that some folks are just terminally stupid.

All the other Arabs ... and even the Persians of Iran ... have been using the "Palestinians" as cannon fodder for their money-making schemes for the past 60 years ...

... and the "Palestinians" are still too dumb to realize it.

There are tens of millions of Arabs who have gotten wealthy and lived lives of luxury off the riches of the homeland of Arabia ... while the "Palestinians" have gotten nothing but generations of poverty, misery, and death.

Yet the "Palestinians" still think that Israel is their enemy.

Terminal stupidity is a sad thing to observe.

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

We may just have to accept the fact that some folks are just terminally stupid.

All the other Arabs ... and even the Persians of Iran ... have been using the "Palestinians" as cannon fodder for their money-making schemes for the past 60 years ...

... and the "Palestinians" are still too dumb to realize it.

There are tens of millions of Arabs who have gotten wealthy and lived lives of luxury off the riches of the homeland of Arabia ... while the "Palestinians" have gotten nothing but generations of poverty, misery, and death.

Yet the "Palestinians" still think that Israel is their enemy.

Terminal stupidity is a sad thing to observe.

As usual you make these utterly silly statements. The Palestinians are not stupid. They have been used. The utter poverty they live in makes them perfect targets for fanatacism. How do you think Israel gets so much intelligence? The "stupid" Palestinians that realize the hopelessness of their fanatic brethren. If you were born in Palestine bold one, I can see you as one of the first to die with bombs strapped to your body because you dont think. You react. Like a primitive jellyfish, very little analysis goes on. Environmental cue-----react. Hell, you might as well be a mousetrap.

Terminal Stupidity demonstrated.

You live in a Lebanese neighborhood. You own a small market and live modestly in a small house. Hezbollah guerrillas under intense attack move into your neighborhood, set up their rockets to fire.

Do you rise up with your neighbors and throw the armed men out? Hell no, they will kill you. So the rockets are fired and the guerrillas move to a new neighborhood. Next thing that occurs is your neighborhood is destroyed by Israeli bombs. What the crud are you supposed to do? Your government cannot control the guerillas.

1. The guerrillas are willing to sacrifice you and your family for the "greater" war.
2. Israel will hit the neighborhood knowing full well civilians that live there that have nothing to do with the war will be killed even, if you have been warned to leave, your life is destroyed.

And now on a Palestinian "Representative" says the Hezbollah kidnappings were a natural reaction to what was happening in Gaza. And the Hezbollah missles are an attempt to defend themselves?????? Exactly what, as a peaceful person living in Lebanon, are you supposed to do? Who do you hate for this? Who do you blame for ruining your livelyhood?

It is complex. But its pretty clear to me what the answers to these questions are.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

w says "humas needs to stop that ****" at the g-8 summit..talking to blair..so funny...in a bad deal..

Originally Posted by pgardn

You live in a Lebanese neighborhood. You own a small market and live modestly in a small house. Hezbollah guerrillas under intense attack move into your neighborhood, set up their rockets to fire.

Do you rise up with your neighbors and throw the armed men out? Hell no, they will kill you. So the rockets are fired and the guerrillas move to a new neighborhood. Next thing that occurs is your neighborhood is destroyed by Israeli bombs. What the crud are you supposed to do? Your government cannot control the guerillas.

1. The guerrillas are willing to sacrifice you and your family for the "greater" war.
2. Israel will hit the neighborhood knowing full well civilians that live there that have nothing to do with the war will be killed even, if you have been warned to leave, your life is destroyed.

And now on a Palestinian "Representative" says the Hezbollah kidnappings were a natural reaction to what was happening in Gaza. And the Hezbollah missles are an attempt to defend themselves?????? Exactly what, as a peaceful person living in Lebanon, are you supposed to do? Who do you hate for this? Who do you blame for ruining your livelyhood?

It is complex. But its pretty clear to me what the answers to these questions are.

Again ... your premise is faulty. You write as if Hezbollah were something which fell from the sky one day ... like a meteorite ... and the helpless Lebanese could do nothing about it.

The Christian Lebanese did their best to prevent terror and dictatorship from taking hold ... the Muslim Lebanese not only didn't fight it ... they encouraged it.

Most Christians left Lebanon when they saw it was hopeless ... can you say "Danny Thomas" and "Jamie Farr"? The Muslims didn't ... thinking that the terrorists were their "friends" ... and now .... many years later ... they're reaping the whirlwind for their complicity with evil.

Originally Posted by pgardn

As usual you make these utterly silly statements. The Palestinians are not stupid. They have been used. The utter poverty they live in makes them perfect targets for fanatacism. How do you think Israel gets so much intelligence? The "stupid" Palestinians that realize the hopelessness of their fanatic brethren. If you were born in Palestine bold one, I can see you as one of the first to die with bombs strapped to your body because you dont think. You react. Like a primitive jellyfish, very little analysis goes on. Environmental cue-----react. Hell, you might as well be a mousetrap.

Terminal Stupidity demonstrated.

What's the old saying ... "Fool me once ... shame on you ... fool me twice ... shame on me"?

How many times now have the Palestinians been fooled by their Arab "brethren" ... and isn't it about time that they woke up?

Even Rip Van Winkle slept for only 20 years ... the Pals have been asleep for 60. I don't know how you define stupidity ... but that sure looks like it to me.

P.S. You're intelligent enough to realize ... or you should be ... that once you resort to personal attacks and name-calling ... you've clearly demonstrated that you've lost the argument.

These larger missiles fired require technological help. There are clearly Iranian and Syrian advisors and trainers in Lebanon. No doubt about that. And they are payed well for putting their lives on the line.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

AS usual you are wrong.

Israel cannot get to the root of Hezbollah by lobbing missile at Lebanon. There are two things you won't see the Israelis do:

1. Support the Coalition forces in Iraq.
2. Send ground troops into Lebanon to truly battle Hezbollah.

Israel NEVER uses ground troops.

Don't look now but Israel sent ground forces into southern Lebanon yesterday, they will invade if necessary and to think any differently shows a lack of understanding of the Isreali mindset...as Pgardn said, Israel will do whatever it takes, including carpet bombing Damascus if these attacks continue. Why do you think we heard rhetoric about a cease fire from both Syria and Iran in the last 24 hours...they are not stupid and they see the storm a-coming!