Don Imus and Rutgers Women

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

What about invisible women? Racist.

Thank you for your silence. I didn't know what you were talking about.
Since you were unable to answer, I guess you didn't either.
Interesting me is how some have shown themselves on this thread.
One wants others to have a "thicker skin", but when challenged demonstrates how thin his own is. I call that move a "check-mate".
Then there are the defenders. The bigots also showed up. Pity them also.
Here's an article you might wish to read and comment about.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/op...=1&oref=slogin

Oh, right, I expect you to come back and attack me rather than discuss the article I posted. Go ahead...it will be lame, as usual.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Thank you for your silence. I didn't know what you were talking about.
Since you were unable to answer, I guess you didn't either.
Interesting me is how some have shown themselves on this thread.
One wants others to have a "thicker skin", but when challenged demonstrates how thin his own is. I call that move a "check-mate".
Then there are the defenders. The bigots also showed up. Pity them also.
Here's an article you might wish to read and comment about.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/10/op...=1&oref=slogin

Oh, right, I expect you to come back and attack me rather than discuss the article I posted. Go ahead...it will be lame, as usaual.

On behalf of the bigots, racists, and "thin skinned" people we officially have put this distressing, disturbing, horrific, terrible incident and resulting thread behind us. I'm sure this will be wrong and show us to be shallow or lacking empathy but so be it. I'm sure that you will continue to throw stones down upon us fools from your ivory tower but we just dont have it in us to respond. Forgive our lameness or ability to see your side of an issue.

[Downthestretch55]

Thank you both for your kind thoughts.
I asked for discussion on the article I posted, and yet again....pathetic attacks.
And thank you both for clearly proving my point, yet again.

That article is for nappyheaded hos and I want no part of it.

[GenuineRisk]

I think it's a good editorial, though I wish she would have told Imus to throw out his acid-wash jacket and to put his collars down.

[somerfrost]

Wow...I haven't posted to this thread and have only read the last page of comments...my opinion, since it appears everybody else has weighed in...Imus always seemed like a decent sort, does a lot for charity...his remarks were totally out of line and he will suffer the consequences, as he should. PC is one thing, making those kind of remarks toward young women is another...it amazes me how stupid public figures can be at times, but racism and sexism run deep in this culture and the fact that this thread is this long speaks volumes.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Wow...I haven't posted to this thread and have only read the last page of comments...my opinion, since it appears everybody else has weighed in...Imus always seemed like a decent sort, does a lot for charity...his remarks were totally out of line and he will suffer the consequences, as he should. PC is one thing, making those kind of remarks toward young women is another...it amazes me how stupid public figures can be at times, but racism and sexism run deep in this culture and the fact that this thread is this long speaks volumes.

Somer,
Good to see you show up. I agree with your take.
Seems to me that this issue brought something to the surface that has been bubbling under a lid for quite a while. It's much more than Imus, Sharpton, or Jackson. Imus gave it voice. He then groveled for forgiveness to Sharpton.
A big mistake IMHO.
The wonderful atheletes of the Rutgers women's team are the ones he needs to face. He doesn't know them, nor do they him. These fine women, despite their youth and proven scholarship, were attacked, for whatever reason Imus can seek to justify. To me, it's up to them to listen and forgive. They have already shown grace and character.
I also have spoken against racism and sexism. Our culture, our own civilization, can no longer tolerate the hatred that is created by manipulation of voices that seek to perpetuate their misguided (hateful, exclusionist) views.
There IS a time to speak up, as the Rutgers women so ably did.
I respect them far more than I do Imus (and yes, Imus has done many good things, as I noted earlier on this thread). Hateful words only pis-sed on all of his good accomplishments.
Perhaps this entire episode brought something to to the light that needed to be seen. The Rutgers women have every good reason to be proud of themselves. They didn't respond with hate, but rather a willingness to listen and try to seek understanding.
It's quite clear that the times have changed. Racism and sexism will no longer go unchallenged.
Let us all learn from this. Let us find ways to make our children as worthy of the respect and pride that the parents of the Rutgers women must feel.
The alternative is to continue a path of "careful teaching", as in the lyrics of that song from "South Pacific"...you've got to be carefully taught...to hate.

KILL WHITEY!! CAN I GET AN AMEN?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

How is this any different than what Imus said?

It's intended as a joke.

It plays off racial stereotypes of a minority group.

And it "attacks" the target based on his ethnicity.


How is it different? How can you say this and have the sack to call other people "racist"?

Why are you considered a hypocrite? Exhibit A. And, btw, your passive aggresive cowardice doesn't fool anyone, so spare us.

Just do as I say, not as I do....

[SCUDSBROTHER]

I want this coach to come freelance with the Dodgers.No wonder this team made the final game. Man she can use an axe.She is rippin' Don a new one.Lady,I got a team of overpaid underperformers. They do not come to give 100% each game.Please come motivate this settling bunch.

I think its coming down to this:

If the advertisers think they will be hurt if after his detention hall he comes back and there is a backlash, he is cooked. If the advertisers dont pull adds, then they think its worth having him on, limited damage done. He stays.

The people who pay the bills for the on air time will have the decision how much it will hurt to keep him. And that ultimately is the advertisers. These people are not dumb. Plenty of little polls and such will be done.

[ArlJim78]

When asking if so and so public figure can come back from some scandal, I always use the Pat O'Brien test. Is it worse than Pat O'Brien? "lets' get some coke and some hookers and just go crazy".

In the Imus case I'd say yeah he'll be back, serve your suspension, apologize another 20-30 times, then go on and be more careful.

The one they should watch is Bernard because he is the one that pushes the racist stuff, I think the I Man sorta just follows along like a kid. anyway he is the one responsible.

the one I find funny on that show is the guy who dresses up and does the voices and songs and impersonations, can't think of his name.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I think its coming down to this:

If the advertisers think they will be hurt if after his detention hall he comes back and there is a backlash, he is cooked. If the advertisers dont pull adds, then they think its worth having him on, limited damage done. He stays.

The people who pay the bills for the on air time will have the decision how much it will hurt to keep him. And that ultimately is the advertisers. These people are not dumb. Plenty of little polls and such will be done.

This coach is giving Don a wicked beating,and hasn't said his name one time.Just rippin him apart by talking about this team's accomplishments etc.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I think its coming down to this:

If the advertisers think they will be hurt if after his detention hall he comes back and there is a backlash, he is cooked. If the advertisers dont pull adds, then they think its worth having him on, limited damage done. He stays.

The people who pay the bills for the on air time will have the decision how much it will hurt to keep him. And that ultimately is the advertisers. These people are not dumb. Plenty of little polls and such will be done.

You might be right.
I think some people found out that "jokes" about racism or sexism aren't really
all that "funny".
Rutgers women gave Imus a slam dunk, no foul....champions they are!
He will learn from them.
I hope we all do.

Originally Posted by pgardn

I think its coming down to this:

If the advertisers think they will be hurt if after his detention hall he comes back and there is a backlash, he is cooked. If the advertisers dont pull adds, then they think its worth having him on, limited damage done. He stays.

The people who pay the bills for the on air time will have the decision how much it will hurt to keep him. And that ultimately is the advertisers. These people are not dumb. Plenty of little polls and such will be done.

Proctor and Gamble is thinking about pulling out. One big one down possibly. Imus may be gone from certain airwaves.

[Mortimer]

Yer all mekin' me sick.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by mortimerdexterfoxworthy

Yer all mekin' me sick.

Finally something I can agree with from Morty

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

ill now be boycotting msnbc and the parent network nbc,,the rainbow coalition
rev als hairdresser,moo and oink grocery chain and all cheech n chong movies as they show chicanos in a bad light...that should keep me un-offended on both sides..imus is a burnt out old man..who cares..

[saucon17]

Originally Posted by Bababooyee

Also, imagine if a conservative said these things. All you would have heard is "conservatives" this and "conservatives" that.

Thank you for bringing up that point. If it was a conservative, that
person would be crucified to no end. When Imus first started out on
radio I think he was conservative and just recently in the past
couple of years became more liberal each year.

[byalip]

Cannon...why do you assume that people who are outraged at these remarks and find racism/sexism repulsive live in ivory towers?