Another Confusing Decision from the NY Stewards

[Cajungator26]

Good post. I couldn't agree more.

[Swale84]

Martin claimed foul against Coa citing interference approaching the turn. The stewards took no action letting Laurentide Ice stay in the show position.

The chart of the race states that Light Classic (Martin up) was "bumped into the rail on the turn, was taken up and dropped back"

Not sure why the stewards didn't take any action on the objection since it was very obvious that Coa crowded Light Classic and Martin into the rail.

The larger issue is the stewards.

Accountability. Competence. And much more. The tracks are not open enough concerning stewards. Reminds me of boxing sometimes, and how the judges are picked. No accountability. No reviewing the reviewers, all in all, not good for racing because of the lack of openness. They just seem to hide.

[randallscott35]

After years of strange calls, I'm always wondering what qualifications you need to be a steward. Are they the same ones to be a dishwasher at Applebees?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The larger issue is the stewards.

Accountability. Competence. And much more. The tracks are not open enough concerning stewards. Reminds me of boxing sometimes, and how the judges are picked. No accountability. No reviewing the reviewers, all in all, not good for racing because of the lack of openness. They just seem to hide.

I couldn't agree more. Nobody has any say over them and anyone who complains is dismissed as a disgruntled bettor.

[Left Bank]

In defense of the New York stewards,they do way better of a job than California stewards,HANDS DOWN!!! The decisions that have been made out there in the past are far worse than ANY of those made in New York,IMO!

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Kimmeastar

In defense of the New York stewards,they do way better of a job than California stewards,HANDS DOWN!!! The decisions that have been made out there in the past are far worse than ANY of those made in New York,IMO!

The Cali stewards do indeed take the cake.

[Cannon Shell]

I have got on my soapbox about this before so I will spare everyone the details. But what goes on in the stewards stand pretty much regardless of jurisdiction is frightening. Some dont know the rules, some misinterpret them, some do both. I have been told things by stewards that would floor you. That is not to say that there aren't some really good ones but in general the level of stewardship in our country is quite low.

[Grits]

Correct decisions and incorrect decisions are made each day by stewards reviewing races. We'll be pleased with some, irrate with others.

The greater problem to me, here, in this particular case, is one of culpability, neither jockey admitting his actions as wrongful and dangerous.

It is not unlike two 3rd graders before the principal whining,

"he did it,"

"did not, he did it first"

"did not."

Both get detention, as in this particular incident. Problem is . . . its a much greater risk, a far more possibly disastrous outcome, when your weapon is a 1200 lb animal.

I would imagine a stewards job more difficult when and if this occurs.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Grits

Correct decisions and incorrect decisions are made each day by stewards reviewing races.

Why would it be acceptable to allow incorrect decisions to be made on a daily basis? How long would you keep your job if you made incorrect decisions on a daily basis? Think about how you would feel if you got taken down in the last leg of a big carryover pick 6 because the stewards made an incorrect decision and they took half a million dollars out of your pocket?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I have got on my soapbox about this before so I will spare everyone the details. But what goes on in the stewards stand pretty much regardless of jurisdiction is frightening. Some dont know the rules, some misinterpret them, some do both. I have been told things by stewards that would floor you. That is not to say that there aren't some really good ones but in general the level of stewardship in our country is quite low.

Out of curiousity which tracks should we focus on are getting a 'fair' ruling in your opinion? I agree with you and I would rather focus on putting my money into those tracks. Perfect example was today at Santa Anita, the 6 horse in the 7th was a must to come down, a must, and they ruled that way

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Scav

Out of curiousity which tracks should we focus on are getting a 'fair' ruling in your opinion? I agree with you and I would rather focus on putting my money into those tracks. Perfect example was today at Santa Anita, the 6 horse in the 7th was a must to come down, a must, and they ruled that way

That is a tricky question. Remember that there are three stewards in each booth. 2 morons can cancel out one good guy. It is not like every call is botched but the lack of any standards or formal training makes me believe that the situation is not getting any better.