Saratoga Trip

[blackthroatedwind]

Horseplayers LEAVE restaurants when jockeys come in....we certainly don't go looking for them.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Horseplayers LEAVE restaurants when jockeys come in....we certainly don't go looking for them.

and RUN when jock agents arrive?

[GPK]

the most "famous" person I have spent the most time with is a formal professional athelete. Im very proud to call him a friend and know that if I ever need a single thing, he is a phone call away. I have seen the way that he has treated the "general public" and I promise you that many people could stand to take a lesson from him in humility.

[boswd]

I do believe what BTW is trying to convey is that to compare the graciousness of jockeys compared to other famous people is unfair, is that even though at Saratoga, Keeneland and maybe some other places they may be treated like celebraties but all in all they will go through most of the year not being pestered for autographs, hounded by the paparazzi, not being able to leave their confines without people hounding them. thus leaving them to be more gracious and actually enjoy the attention of some fame.
As with famous actors, athletes, entertainers, who are more widely known, who can't go to the store for a gallon of milk, they sometimes won't be so gracious with the fans etc because it has worn them down.

Originally Posted by boswd

I do believe what BTW is trying to convey is that to compare the graciousness of jockeys compared to other famous people is unfair, is that even though at Saratoga, Keeneland and maybe some other places they may be treated like celebraties but all in all they will go through most of the year not being pestered for autographs, hounded by the paparazzi, not being able to leave their confines without people hounding them. thus leaving them to be more gracious and actually enjoy the attention of some fame.
As with famous actors, athletes, entertainers, who are more widely known, who can't go to the store for a gallon of milk, they sometimes won't be so gracious with the fans etc because it has worn them down.

Like Manny being Manny, Just Kiddin'. BTW & ME resolved this in private, I do see the point. Huge Sox fan here in Upstate NY, and that doesn't mean Orange, Westchester and Putnam CO. (those are Downstate regardless of what they think) short trip to The SPA, we don't get NESN, just wondering if you've caught any Spring Tr. yet?

[boswd]

Like Manny being Manny, Just Kiddin'. BTW & ME resolved this in private, I do see the point. Huge Sox fan here in Upstate NY, and that doesn't mean Orange, Westchester and Putnam CO. (those are Downstate regardless of what they think) short trip to The SPA, we don't get NESN, just wondering if you've caught any Spring Tr. yet?

Caught a few games so far. I am oringinally an Upstate NY'er as Well. 45 mins west of Albany, small town called St. Johnsville. Grew up going to the Spa and still make the annual pilgrimage every year and have turned many of friends here on to the place.
Always seem to be a good number of Red Sox fans in upstate, I think it's great.

[estreetposse]

Originally Posted by boswd

Caught a few games so far. I am oringinally an Upstate NY'er as Well. 45 mins west of Albany, small town called St. Johnsville. Grew up going to the Spa and still make the annual pilgrimage every year and have turned many of friends here on to the place.
Always seem to be a good number of Red Sox fans in upstate, I think it's great.

Home of the Purple and Gold, the Schoff's and well that's about it. Just kidding!!

Your team just won Boys Hoop Sectionals, I grew up and still live in a small town out there, Home of the Hilltoppers!!! Small world ain't it!!

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Horseplayers LEAVE restaurants when jockeys come in....we certainly don't go looking for them.

Never said I went looking for them, I just happened to be having the Cadillac of Margaritas when they came in, Santos(whom I lost a huge tri on that day but kept that to myself) and I believe Migs was coming in as I was leaving and Bob intro. me to as well. Couple of others but had too many Margaritas to remember. They were very cordial and thank us for being fans of the sport. Not many other athletes or famous folks can say the same IMO.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by estreetposse

Never said I went looking for them, I just happened to be having the Cadillac of Margaritas when they came in, Santos(whom I lost a huge tri on that day but kept that to myself) and I believe Migs was coming in as I was leaving and Bob intro. me to as well. Couple of others but had too many Margaritas to remember. They were very cordial and thank us for being fans of the sport. Not many other athletes or famous folks can say the same IMO.

I agree.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I agree.

I don't.

I am taking nothing away from the vast majority of riders, and their pretty much extremely generous behavoir in Saratoga, but compared to other " athletes " and famous people they are hardly well known, nor do they act differently than most.

One of my close friends is a well known movie actor and he is unbelievably gracious to everybody who stops him on the street or sees him publicly. Certainly everybody is not quite as generous, but most are within reason, just like the riders. To say that " not many others " behave in that manner is grossly unfair.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't.

I am taking nothing away from the vast majority of riders, and their pretty much extremely generous behavoir in Saratoga, but compared to other " athletes " and famous people they are hardly well known, nor do they act differently than most.

One of my close friends is a well known movie actor and he is unbelievably gracious to everybody who stops him on the street or sees him publicly. Certainly everybody is not quite as generous, but most are within reason, just like the riders. To say that " not many others " behave in that manner is grossly unfair.

I bet Dixie is pretty gracious towards all of his fans too.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I bet Dixie is pretty gracious towards all of his fans too.

How did you know that's who I meant?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't.

I am taking nothing away from the vast majority of riders, and their pretty much extremely generous behavoir in Saratoga, but compared to other " athletes " and famous people they are hardly well known, nor do they act differently than most.

One of my close friends is a well known movie actor and he is unbelievably gracious to everybody who stops him on the street or sees him publicly. Certainly everybody is not quite as generous, but most are within reason, just like the riders. To say that " not many others " behave in that manner is grossly unfair.

I know a few "famous" folks myself that are gracious and friendly as well, but I think it's fair to say that the MAJORITY of famous people are not so gracious. Furthermore, while the jockeys are not considered well known to you, they are to other people who may not be as deep into the racing industry as yourself. I would say that since you are considered an insider, you couldn't possibly think of the jockeys as famous people and therefore you can't judge.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I know a few "famous" folks myself that are gracious and friendly as well, but I think it's fair to say that the MAJORITY of famous people are not so gracious. Furthermore, while the jockeys are not considered well known to you, they are to other people who may not be as deep into the racing industry as yourself. I would say that since you are considered an insider, you couldn't possibly think of the jockeys as famous people and therefore you can't judge.

You don't understand. In Saratoga, the riders are well known, as frankly am I, but in the outside world very few people know who they are. That is a fact.

While the famous people I know are in the film business, and I have spent time with more than a few, the're almost all extremely gracious to everybody that speaks to them. Perhaps in other segments of supposed " famous " people this is not true. There are jerks in all walks of life....and any famous person that doesn't return their fan's adoration with generosity is completely out of line, within reason, as without those people they would be nothing.

[MisterB]

I give out autographs all the time

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You don't understand. In Saratoga, the riders are well known, as frankly am I, but in the outside world very few people know who they are. That is a fact.

While the famous people I know are in the film business, and I have spent time with more than a few, the're almost all extremely gracious to everybody that speaks to them. Perhaps in other segments of supposed " famous " people this is not true. There are jerks in all walks of life....and any famous person that doesn't return their fan's adoration with generosity is completely out of line, within reason, as without those people they would be nothing.

I DO understand, Andy... but what I'm saying is that to people who are racing fans, the jockeys and YOU are famous. For example, you may not give a shiat about NASCAR and therefore the drivers of the cars are nameless to you (thus not famous), but to a diehard NASCAR fan, they are famous. To each their own is all I'm saying.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I don't.

I am taking nothing away from the vast majority of riders, and their pretty much extremely generous behavoir in Saratoga, but compared to other " athletes " and famous people they are hardly well known, nor do they act differently than most.

One of my close friends is a well known movie actor and he is unbelievably gracious to everybody who stops him on the street or sees him publicly. Certainly everybody is not quite as generous, but most are within reason, just like the riders. To say that " not many others " behave in that manner is grossly unfair.

Ron Jeremey is not a famous movie actor Andy, cmon.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Ron Jeremey is not a famous movie actor Andy, cmon.

At least spell his name right. The dude has certainly earned that.

Did you see him at Saratoga a couple years ago?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

At least spell his name right. The dude has certainly earned that.

Did you see him at Saratoga a couple years ago?

I don't know him as well as you which is why I can't spell his name right. LOL....No, he was in Toga? Attracting all the heavyweights up there.

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Horseplayers LEAVE restaurants when jockeys come in....we certainly don't go looking for them.

Guess you and I would never get along...I've actually been known to even consider a couple of exercise riders as friends....but then again I'm not famous either...