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Old 02-19-2007, 05:24 PM
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:24 PM
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I know he takes a beating in here from time to time, but I'm also glad that Stew was on the winner....some vindication there too....
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:25 PM
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cajun i wish we were hanging out at the track today... we could have played an exacta box w/ our picks for $4 and won $365!

next time...
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:26 PM
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That's a definite throwout race for Hard Spun
WHY???
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:27 PM
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I know he takes a beating in here from time to time, but I'm also glad that Stew was on the winner....some vindication there too....
Yeah, couldn't agree more. I've loved this colt for a while now and it was good to see him go a mile around two turns. I wasn't sure he'd be able to do it. He's got one of the nicer strides on the 3 year olds that I've seen. I think he is better suited as a sprinter, but evidentally, he can go a mile too. Nice win for Teuflesberg.
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:27 PM
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I think that's a throw out race period. I'll have to look at the chart and watch the replay a few more times, but I didn't see anybody I'd bet in the future.

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Old 02-19-2007, 05:28 PM
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cajun i wish we were hanging out at the track today... we could have played an exacta box w/ our picks for $4 and won $365!

next time...
Yeah, but instead of trusting my initial viewpoints, I changed my mind at the last minute. I didn't play this race today, luckily. I would have been ripping tickets. LOL
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:31 PM
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Yeah, but instead of trusting my initial viewpoints, I changed my mind at the last minute. I didn't play this race today, luckily. I would have been ripping tickets. LOL
i did worse than that...... changed the #5 to a 6 at the last minute...... aghhhhhhh !
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:32 PM
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I think that's a throw out race period. I'll have to look at the chart and watch the replay a few more times, but I didn't see anybody I'd bet in the future.

NT
Yeah, but it isn't a throwout in terms of exposing Hard Spun. He's not going to be on the lead in the Derby and have a shot so if that is how he is going to rate he is in big trouble.
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:34 PM
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Yeah, but it isn't a throwout in terms of exposing Hard Spun. He's not going to be on the lead in the Derby and have a shot so if that is how he is going to rate he is in big trouble.
I couldn't agree more, Sniper.
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:35 PM
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Somebody on this board said Teuflesberg didnt belong but I dont rember who.
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:36 PM
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Going wide around the first turn was beyond Pino's control but to not try and save ground and instead go wide the whole race was a pinhead hall of fame decision. The horse bravely held on for fourth. If I was the owner I would slap the **** out of Pino.
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:37 PM
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Somebody on this board said Teuflesberg didnt belong but I dont rember who.
I wasn't certain he could get a mile effectively, but I know that Pedigree Ann stated that maybe he could get a mile at Aqueduct, but she doubted at Oaklawn. Who knows...

I DO think he's a better sprinter and I think he'll be a really nice one if he's allowed to do that. I DON'T think that Teuflesberg is going to have an easy time getting 10 furlongs in the derby (if he's entered.)
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:40 PM
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I got the pick 3 going with the 4 and 8 in the 10th. Can we say a signer maybe? Oh BTW go to Oaklawn Live Streaming Radio at Oaklawn.com and you can listen to the live race call with Realplayer on the computer.
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:41 PM
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Going wide around the first turn was beyond Pino's control but to not try and save ground and instead go wide the whole race was a pinhead hall of fame decision. The horse bravely held on for fourth. If I was the owner I would slap the **** out of Pino.
which is exactly why Pino will be taken off....this came up last week and Porter said he would stick with Jones's pick of Pino....but let me tell you, this was his test and he failed miserably....
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:43 PM
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There was nothing special about that field and any horse can get a mile against soft competition over a speed favoring surface. I'd be surprised if any of those horses even makes the Derby. Toy race.
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:44 PM
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which is exactly why Pino will be taken off....this came up last week and Porter said he would stick with Jones's pick of Pino....but let me tell you, this was his test and he failed miserably....
THe connections should've just scratched after the draw. The outside posts are a graveyard at that distance. Anyways I liked what I saw from Hard Spun today. It wasn't his fault.
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:45 PM
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wow thats gonna be a heluva exacta that shouldnt have been that difficult to play!
YOU COULDN'T BE MORE CORRECT!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:46 PM
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I got the pick 3 going with the 4 and 8 in the 10th. Can we say a signer maybe? Oh BTW go to Oaklawn Live Streaming Radio at Oaklawn.com and you can listen to the live race call with Realplayer on the computer.
I'm not sure about the 4 being a signer but the 8 looks like it will be.
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Old 02-19-2007, 05:52 PM
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Going wide around the first turn was beyond Pino's control but to not try and save ground and instead go wide the whole race was a pinhead hall of fame decision. The horse bravely held on for fourth. If I was the owner I would slap the **** out of Pino.
Bravely held on for fourth? He was 1-5 and should have been able to handle a trip wide around both turns if he was something really special.

If the public knew in advance that he would require a really crafty groundsaving ride in order to take down Tueflesberg, I don't think he would have been at such a short price.

He was supposed to merely laugh at this field and win in a romping fashion as much the best. I didn't believe that but its just that the trip wasn't supposed to factor into it at all.

This is a derby prep, and part of the prepping is to see how horses handle less than ideal trips.

I don't see this as something to pin on Pino, I just don't think anyone was going to get HS to the winners circle today. It was much more than the rider making a mistake. He didn't lose by a neck.
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