Summer Doldrums headed for the Gotham S. (G3) on March 10.

[Cajungator26]

Call me stupid, but I tend to use the dosage index approach for the derby, and this colt doesn't really fit the necessary profile. Giacomo didn't either, though (probably why I tossed him. ) Thoughts?

6-2-6-0-0 (14) DI = 3.67 CD = 1.00

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Call me stupid, but I tend to use the dosage index approach for the derby, and this colt doesn't really fit the necessary profile. Giacomo didn't either, though (probably why I tossed him. ) Thoughts?

6-2-6-0-0 (14) DI = 3.67 CD = 1.00

Dosage is becoming obsolete as horses get further from the chefs-de-races and they continue to be reluctant to add new ones. All it has become is a measure of how few generations you are removed from the top stallions of old. That isn't even factoring in that it completely ignores any females in your pedigree.

[Mac88]

Very impressive Saturday and being a son of Street Cry should get a distance of ground. However beating up on that field in Whirlaway compared to what he will probably face down the line makes me cautious.

Anyone have any opinion on whether he took advantage of any biases Sat? i think I recall him inside for the race and know Sun at Aqueduct there was huge inside bias

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by jjf1031

Very impressive Saturday and being a son of Street Cry should get a distance of ground. However beating up on that field in Whirlaway compared to what he will probably face down the line makes me cautious.

Anyone have any opinion on whether he took advantage of any biases Sat? i think I recall him inside for the race and know Sun at Aqueduct there was huge inside bias

Is distance capability in the pedigree normally determined largely by the female family, though?

[KonaNative]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Is distance capability in the pedigree normally determined largely by the female family, though?

Here is a link to some info on Female Pedigree.
http://www.dimarpublishing.citymaker...ge/1367143.htm

[Gander]

Summer Doldrums will be 2/5 in the Gotham (theres little else in there, most likely a 4 horse field). If you didnt bet him last week you can forget about a price on this Violette charge until the KY Derby.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Summer Doldrums is bred to thrive over a distance of ground.

His sire Street Cry won the 1 1/4 mile Dubai World Cup in supreme fashion over tough stablemate Sakhee.

His dam sire, Unacounted For, was beaten just one length by Cigar, at level weights, in the 1995 Jockey Club Gold Cup at 1 1/4 miles. Cigar was a perfect 10-for-10 that season, and no one got closer to him all year than Unaccounted For did that day.

The female family is laced with sprinter/miler types---and is a nice injection of speed into the pedigree.

I don't pay any attention to dosage at all. This horse really has stepped his game up with the added distance....however, I have a hard time believing he's as good as that 106 Beyer suggests.

Each of the top four finishers in the Whirlaway Stakes had double digit new career tops---and with only one other route race on the AQU card, and a widely talked about rail bias---there are a lot of fluky things surrounding the race from a figure making standpoint.

[MisterB]

Actually I didn't think he would try the lead, but the rail was the place to be Saturday. Bias, yes for sure. I consider his best ability to stalk, then pounce down the lane. Has a nice strong late kick, and the Big A has the longest streach, so they do have a way to compliment each other.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Actually I didn't think he would try the lead, but the rail was the place to be Saturday. Bias, yes for sure. I consider his best ability to stalk, then pounce down the lane. Has a nice strong late kick, and the Big A has the longest streach, so they do have a way to compliment each other.

AQU Inner stretch is of course considerably shorter than the 1,155' of the AQU Main, and the Gotham will be run on the Inner this year..

Rick Violette on ATRAB Monday (starts 30:00 into segment):
http://www.attheracesandbeyond.com/stream/21207a.mp3

[slotdirt]

Giacomo's dosage fit, didn't it?

I think the DRF still lists the Inner Track stretch as being longer than the Main Track stretch. Seems like a mathematical impossibility but that's what it says!

[slotdirt]

Nevermind, Giacomo had 16 total points. I think somer's angles say one must have 18.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Kasept

AQU Inner stretch is of course considerably shorter than the 1,155' of the AQU Main, and the Gotham will be run on the Inner this year..

Rick Violette on ATRAB Monday (starts 30:00 into segment):
http://www.attheracesandbeyond.com/stream/21207a.mp3

Steve, bar trivia:
The longest NYRA stretch?
The Aqueduct Inner. Look it up.

[Mac88]

Bias was there. Quality is there as well and agree he will be around 4/5 unless someone new pops up.