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Old 05-03-2022, 03:02 PM
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I don't think there is anyone as fast as Forbidden Kingdom in this race and I thought the way he finished was pretty impressive given the pace battle he was in. That said, what are the chances that John Velazquez "wins" the Derby three years in a row with the runner up in the Santa Anita Derby?
I don't think battle is the word I'd use. He stalked Forbidden Kingdom comfortably and went by him pretty easily around the turn.

Taiba was only another 2 lengths back. So if he was able to sit close and outfinish Messier after just a 6F race, how is Messier going to beat him this time? And I don't like Taiba at all.

Like I said...I have no idea what to make of Messier.
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Old 05-03-2022, 03:05 PM
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Messier
Epicenter
White Abarrio
Zandon
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Old 05-03-2022, 08:35 PM
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Messier reminds me of Perfect Drift a bit. He seems to enjoy running with the herd and will hang when given the opportunity. With that said, I personally can't see him actually winning the race... Who knows though?
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Old 05-03-2022, 10:25 PM
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I keep coming back to Smile Happy. Can't help but think he is coming into this race in eerily similar fashion to his grandsire. Super Saver lost both of his starts to begin his three year old campaign just like Smile Happy. He drew the four post, Smile Happy the five, and won the Derby. I think Smile Happy projects to get a similar trip to what Super Saver got. Not sure if Smile Happy will stick to the rail all the way around but he certainly should be saving ground into that first turn. He'll be a little further back than Super Saver but with what looks like quite a few horses that want to be on or near the front, that might be the place to be.

Probably (definitely) over thinking this but I don't want anyone that will be too close to the lead. Epicenter certainly can win but I don't want him at 4-1. I don't want Zandon or Mo Donegal either. Too much traffic to trust a deep closer at single digit odds in a race like this.

Cyberknife is the other horse I'm talking myself into as the week goes on...was going to toss him completely now I have him as a B.

This is one of the more exciting Derbies in recent memory so I'm sure I'll change my mind a few more times before Saturday.
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Old 05-04-2022, 11:35 AM
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I don't think battle is the word I'd use. He stalked Forbidden Kingdom comfortably and went by him pretty easily around the turn.

Taiba was only another 2 lengths back. So if he was able to sit close and outfinish Messier after just a 6F race, how is Messier going to beat him this time? And I don't like Taiba at all.

Like I said...I have no idea what to make of Messier.
The best horse in the KD is Taiba. I don't think he should have been in this position that said he is.
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