USC kills Notre Dame

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

If the game had been even close, maybe there might be a point. But it wasnt. it was a drubbing. If this was a once in a blue moon kind of thing, maybe there would be a point. But it isnt. Michigan always loses to USC. Period. Do i need to bring up the stats?

They played one REALLY bad quarter of football. Without that one REALLY bad quarter of football, USC doesn't even win the game.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

USC lost twice this year. Close games but losses none the less. It happens. No excuses. In each game, with less than five minutes to go, USC needed but ONE score to take the lead. Can Michigan say the same thing? NO. With five minutes to go, they were down by 3 touchdowns.

But for crying out loud -- Oregon St. and UCLA? Speaks for itself.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

They lose by two touchdowns and they still are the better team?

I'm glad you're catching on -- that's what I've been saying this whole time.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

They played one REALLY bad quarter of football. Without that one REALLY bad quarter of football, USC doesn't even win the game.



But for crying out loud -- Oregon St. and UCLA? Speaks for itself.



I'm glad you're catching on -- that's what I've been saying this whole time.

Well, in fantasy land, Michigan actually won that game. But this is REALITY where excuses dont matter. In the real world, michigan got CRUSHED. The got beat like they always do.

Is that 7 straight bowl games now?

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Well, in fantasy land, Michigan actually won that game. But this is REALITY where excuses dont matter. In the real world, michigan got CRUSHED. The got beat like they always do.

Is that 7 straight bowl games now? yep...ann arbor is STILL a whore.

well it's 4, and I guess you didn't read what I had to say on the subject and I'm actually a UM fan. Outplayed and outcoached.

Last big win....I might say PSU last year...no shame in losing to Texas with the clock expiring in 05, one of the best games I've ever seen. Any UM fan would say OSU in 03, probably Florida in 03...but then yes the Orange Bowl in with Brady was the last big game.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by dr. fager

well it's 4, and I guess you didn't read what I had to say on the subject and I'm actually a UM fan. Outplayed and outcoached.

Last big win....I might say PSU last year...no shame in losing to Texas with the clock expiring in 05, one of the best games I've ever seen. Any UM fan would say OSU in 03, probably Florida in 03...but then yes the Orange Bowl in with Brady was the last big game.

And thats fair enough good doctor. Michigan has nothing to hang its head about. They had a fine season.

My point was that the excuses get old especially in the face of that kind of beating.

Michigan should be set for a fine 2007. No Troy Smith should really help.

[dr. fager]

Trust me, I'm shaking my head about most of this myself...lol

Just felt like someone that actually does pull for the team should speak up.

Lloyd Carr will have to resign in order for Michigan to have a good 2007 season. Sorry that's just the way it is.

[dr. fager]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Lloyd Carr will have to resign in order for Michigan to have a good 2007 season. Sorry that's just the way it is.

I personally don't agree, but I don't see him there for more than 2 more years and feel he's earned it. It's not all wins and losses in cfb. And Ron English was a great hire. We'll see.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

They played one REALLY bad quarter of football. Without that one REALLY bad quarter of football, USC doesn't even win the game

If you watched the game and really think this to be true I have to wonder if your tv was on the fritz or your eyes are just maized over.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If you watched the game and really think this to be true I have to wonder if your tv was on the fritz or your eyes are just maized over.

If I remember, I think it was 3-3 before the quarter I referenced. My TV worked well enough for me to see that.

Which brings us back to one REALLY bad quarter of football that wins the game for USC. Playing bad football to a 3-3 tie at halftime is not getting routed by any stretch of the imagination. If USC was the wonderteam that everyone paints them as now, they would have blown the game open in the first half.

Which brings us right back to one REALLY bad quarter of football.

[ddthetide]

sc adjustments at halftime were excellent! sc dominated the whole second half. they exposed the poor tackling and weak over all play in the michigan secondary. same thing osu exposed weeks earlier . sc didn't have to run the ball any.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

If I remember, I think it was 3-3 before the quarter I referenced. My TV worked well enough for me to see that.

Which brings us back to one REALLY bad quarter of football that wins the game for USC. Playing bad football to a 3-3 tie at halftime is not getting routed by any stretch of the imagination. If USC was the wonderteam that everyone paints them as now, they would have blown the game open in the first half.

Which brings us right back to one REALLY bad quarter of football.

Actually it was 2 bad quarters with one being REALLY bad. You didn't even comment on the 'maized' over remark.
As someone who watches a lot of college football, is not a fan of either team, had no money bet on the game, my opinion was that USC was a better team, more athletic, faster, and as physical as Michigan. I also think Carrol made the better adjustments and it did seem like a usc crowd but I think that if they played this game 100 times USC wins at least 75. One thing that made Michigan seem beter than they really were this year was turnover ratio. Coming into the game they had only committed 10 turnovers all year while getting 25 takeaways. Turnovers are usually more luck than skill. Meaning if you drop a football on the ground in the middle of the field 10 times in theory each team would get the ball 5 times. Not making turnovers is a sign of a good team but Michigans #'s were unreal.
Everyone forgets that Michigan was really close to losing to Ball State. Real close. and Ball State is awful. Ucla or Oregon State would be 25pt favs over BS.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You didn't even comment on the 'maized' over remark.

I actually enjoyed very much even though I didn't comment on it. I love the word "maize" and every time it is used I am happy (I'm not being facetious here, I think it's borderline the best word on Earth to say out loud).

With that said, if you were to ask me the only college football team I am really a "fan" of, it would be the Portland State Vikings. I hate Michigan. I'm not from here, have no loyalty to it, no state pride, no nothing. It's just a stop on the journey back to Portland. So while it may appear that I am an overly zealous Ann Arbor inhabitant that attends UM, I neither attend the college nor really consider myself a real "fan" of the team. Especially not to the point where I would be willing to go down in flames with them no matter what just because they're UM. It’s impossible for my eyes to be “maized over.”

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I also think Carrol made the better adjustments.

I agree with you there. Outcoached for certain, but I don't agree that it makes them a better football team.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Actually it was 2 bad quarters with one being REALLY bad.

That's part of the point I'm making. They played bad football for an entire HALF and got away with a 3-3 tie in that half. USC should have blown the game wide open there, but it took a REALLY bad quarter of football by Michigan for them to actually take advantage of the fact that Michigan was playing like crap.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Everyone forgets that Michigan was really close to losing to Ball State. Real close. and Ball State is awful. Ucla or Oregon State would be 25pt favs over BS.

I didn't forget that Ball State nearly beat them, it was an exciting game.

But like you said, they were “really close to losing”. Yes, Michigan almost lost to a bad football team. They didn't

USC did. Twice.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Portland State Vikings.

Neil Lomax fan?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Neil Lomax fan?

He's a legend out there, of course.

I wasn't around during his time so I can't say I'm a fan of his per se.

I've only been a Vikings fan since 2003 when I started going to school there, so he's about the only thing I know about them from before that time!

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

the coach is part of the team

you bet, but getting outcoached in a game doesn't by default indicate that your team is not better than the other team. it indicates that you done ****ed up.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I agree with you there. Outcoached for certain, but I don't agree that it makes them a better football team.

the coach is part of the team

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I didn't forget that Ball State nearly beat them, it was an exciting game.

But like you said, they were “really close to losing”. Yes, Michigan almost lost to a bad football team. They didn't

USC did. Twice.

Embarassing may be a better word than exciting.

Surviving Ball State may be worse than losing close games to bowl teams.
Surviving Illinois is not something to be proud of.

We can compare schedules all we want but the truth is that USC finished with 2 losses and Michigan finished with 2 losses but USC BEAT Michigan pretty soundly and that is what counts.