Lava Man to Dubai?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

Some folks can't wait to slam Lava Man. If you insist on the "he can't ship" outlook, then look at it this way: Lava Man has never lost on turf when he's shipped.

I think he has an excellent chance to hit the board. If he does, all the slammers will knock the competition, as they did for The Tin Man. Or they will say he stole the race. (As they, again, did for TTM in the Arlington Million.)

--Dunbar

Or they will be right and, as usual, the people who took free internet shots will never revisit their bad opinions. But, should they be wrong, I'm sure those same internet cowards will come to remind them.

As an example....where are all of Perfect Drift's ridiculous pre-BC defenders?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Or they will be right and, as usual, the people who took free internet shots will never revisit their bad opinions. But, should they be wrong, I'm sure those same internet cowards will come to remind them.

As an example....where are all of Perfect Drift's ridiculous pre-BC defenders?

*Raises hand.*

Perfect Drift had a legitimate excuse in the BCC.

As for Lava Man, if the horse was stabled in Kentucky all year as he is California, I think he would run just as well in Kentucky. I don't think it's the track surfaces that do him in... I think it's his uncomfort in being stabled in new digs. Just my take on it...

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

*Raises hand.*

Perfect Drift had a legitimate excuse in the BCC.

...

Which was?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Which was?

Didn't he come back with a breathing problem or am I losing it? I could have sworn that I read that somewhere...

[outofthebox]

He might have had a problem breathing all that dirt that was kicked in his face...J/k

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by outofthebox

He might have had a problem breathing all that dirt that was kicked in his face...J/k

LOL... you're right.

He DID run uncharacteristically poor for him. Although he doesn't actually WIN very often, he is normally running at the end. I was shocked by his 8th place finish.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Didn't he come back with a breathing problem or am I losing it? I could have sworn that I read that somewhere...

They come up with an excuse everytime he runs (or blame other trainers). I think it's about time they consider him no longer Grade 1 material and start from there.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Which was?

http://www.ntra.com/content.aspx?type=news&id=21805

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Perfect Drift had a legitimate excuse in the BCC.

Yes, he's WAY too slow.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yes, he's WAY too slow.

I disagree, but opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has got one.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I disagree, but opinions are like a$$holes, everyone has got one.

how can you think that..he has no chance at winning ever in the class that he chooses to run in...he gets a check..but no wins.. gator are dateing murray johnson?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

how can you think that..he has no chance at winning ever in the class that he chooses to run in...he gets a check..but no wins.. gator are dateing murray johnson?

No, but we both have big noses.

Here is my disagreement... you guys think that Perfect Drift is SLOW. I DON'T see him as a slow horse. I see him as a fast horse who doesn't give more than he has to. (Ok, so he's a hanger.) Because of that, he appears slow...

Can you honestly say that you think he was 100% in the BCC? I mean, come on... it was like he wasn't even running! He ran terrible and I don't think that was because he's "too slow."

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

No, but we both have big noses.

Here is my disagreement... you guys think that Perfect Drift is SLOW. I DON'T see him as a slow horse. I see him as a fast horse who doesn't give more than he has to. (Ok, so he's a hanger.) Because of that, he appears slow...

Can you honestly say that you think he was 100% in the BCC? I mean, come on... it was like he wasn't even running! He ran terrible and I don't think that was because he's "too slow."

Did you purchase the past performances for the Classic or are you recalling the Perfect Drift of 2 years ago?

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

No, but we both have big noses.

Here is my disagreement... you guys think that Perfect Drift is SLOW. I DON'T see him as a slow horse. I see him as a fast horse who doesn't give more than he has to. (Ok, so he's a hanger.) Because of that, he appears slow...

Can you honestly say that you think he was 100% in the BCC? I mean, come on... it was like he wasn't even running! He ran terrible and I don't think that was because he's "too slow."

I can, yes. The result in the Classic was to be expected. He did run his race in the BC, he didn't belong in the race.

He once belonged in that race, he doesn't anymore. He is simply not fast enough to be any factor in a race like that anymore.

Pop quiz, what do the following top thoroughbreds all have in common?

Ball Four
Suave
Seek Gold
Watershed event

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

*Raises hand.*

Perfect Drift had a legitimate excuse in the BCC.

As for Lava Man, if the horse was stabled in Kentucky all year as he is California, I think he would run just as well in Kentucky. I don't think it's the track surfaces that do him in... I think it's his uncomfort in being stabled in new digs. Just my take on it...

I'm a big Lava Man fan, but you're right about him racing at home. Steve told us that when he saw Lava Man at Churchhill for the BC that he was having a problem with his new home and appeared to be a "STALL RACER". Let him be King of California till someone beats him.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Or they will be right and, as usual, the people who took free internet shots will never revisit their bad opinions. But, should they be wrong, I'm sure those same internet cowards will come to remind them.

As an example....where are all of Perfect Drift's ridiculous pre-BC defenders?

Agree in general. So, I'll try to make a point of checking back in on this one either way. I hope you will, too.

--Dunbar