Week/Weekend Stakes Beyers: Authentic 105

[King Glorious]

Don't know what she'll look like on the Beyer scale but Princess Noor has now won twice with the greatest of ease and has all the looks of a future star.

[Kasept]

SAR Hopeful S (G1): Jackie's Warrior 95 (Maclean's Music) S. Asmussen/J. Rosario
SAR Lure S: Ballagh Rocks 97 (Stormy Atlantic) W. Mott/J. Alvarado
SAR Spinaway S (G1): Vequist 83 (Nyquist) R. Reid/L. Saez
SAR Honorable Miss H (G2): Come Dancing 95 (Malibu Moon) C. Martin/I. Ortiz
SAR Lucky Coin S: Battle Station 94 (Warrior's Reward) R. Atras/K. Carmouche

DMR Del Mar Debutante S (G1): Princess Noor 79 (Not This Time) B. Baffert/V. Espinoza
DMR Del Mar Derby (G2): Pixelate 88 (City Zip) M. Stidham/U. Rispoli
DMR Del Mar Futurity (G1): Dr. Schivel 74 (Violence) L. Mendez/F. Prat
DMR Del Mar Juvenile Turf S: Big Fish 67 (Mr. Big) D. Hofmans/V. Espinoza
DMR Juvenile Fillies Turf S: Madone 64 (Vancouver-AUS) S. Callaghan/F. Prat

KD Tourist Mile S: Flavius 103 (War Front) C. Brown/J. Castellano
KD More Than Ready Juvenile S: Barrister Tom 71 (Artie Schiller) M. Ewing/T. Baze
KD Mint Juvenile Fillies S: Plum Ali 71 (First Samurai) C. Clement/T. Gaffalione
KD One Dreamer S: Dalika-GER 89 (Pastorius-GER) A. Stall/M. Mena

LRL Laurel Dash S: Completed Pass 91 (Pass Rush) C. Gonzalez/A. Cruz
LRL Henry S. Clark S: Doctor Mounty 91 (Street Sense) C. McGaughey/F. Boyce
LRL Federico Tesio S: Happy Saver 94 (Super Saver) T. Pletcher/T. McCarthy
LRL Weber City Miss S: Grand Cru Classe 81 (Bernardini) W. Mott/J. Pimentel
LRL All Along S: Nay Lady Nay-IRE 96 (No Nay Never) C. Brown/V. Carrasco

MTH Sorority S: Mischievous Dream 58 (Into Mischief) C. Clement/J. Bravo
MTH Sapling S: Waist Deep 71 (Oxbow) A. Farrior/J. Vargas

GP Monroe S: Always Shopping 83 (Awesome Again) T. Pletcher/E. Zayas
GP Mr. Steele S: Sailing Solo 94 (Smart Strike) L. Roussel/E. Prado
GP Benny The Bull S: Noble Drama 95 (Gone Astray) D. Fawkes/H. Berrios
GP Sheer Drama S: Heiressall 87 (Wildcat Heir) T. Pompay/M. Vasquez

PRX Banjo Picker Sprint S: Midtowncharlybrown 85 (Uptowncharlybrown) E. Coletti/R. Rosado
PRX Mrs. Penny S: Its a Journey 78 (Jump Start) J. Ness/M. Sanchez
PRX Storm Cat S: Wait for It 97 (Uptowncharlybrown) E. Coletti/A. Nunez
PRX Marshall Jenney H: The Critical Way 91 (Tizway) J. Delgado/R. Silvera
PRX Dr. Garofalo Memorial S: Pink Caddy 81 (El Padrino) R. Allen/M. Sanchez

GG Rolling Green S: Camino Del Paraiso 97 (Suances-GB) O. Jauregui/C. Martinez

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Don't know what she'll look like on the Beyer scale but Princess Noor has now won twice with the greatest of ease and has all the looks of a future star.

"Future"? She won the West Coast's most important juvy filly G1. Kinda a star now. Gary Young, who bought her, said last week on the show that if she stays healthy, she's a generational talent.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Kasept

"Future"? She won the West Coast's most important juvy filly G1. Kinda a star now. Gary Young, who bought her, said last week on the show that if she stays healthy, she's a generational talent.

One could look at it that way and I suppose when considering all horses, a grade one winner is special. I meant more in the sense that she could be a superstar, one that stands out from other grade one winners.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Kasept

"Future"? She won the West Coast's most important juvy filly G1. Kinda a star now. Gary Young, who bought her, said last week on the show that if she stays healthy, she's a generational talent.

She’s obviously very talented...but her main rival pulled up and the rest were just fillers on Sunday. She’s been VERY good so far and maybe she will turn out to be a generational talent but I can’t imagine she’ll ever be able to live up to that kind of praise.

Gamine was supposedly a generational talent too

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

She’s obviously very talented...but her main rival pulled up and the rest were just fillers on Sunday. She’s been VERY good so far and maybe she will turn out to be a generational talent but I can’t imagine she’ll ever be able to live up to that kind of praise.

Gamine was supposedly a generational talent too

Is Gamine's opportunity at that distinction eliminated because she got beat at 9f?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Is Gamine's opportunity at that distinction eliminated because she got beat at 9f?

No...but when a filly who runs by appointment only fails to switch leads at the top of the stretch like she has in her 4 prior races I’m thinking we might not get to see her on track too much longer. I hope I’m wrong, but that was not the same horse the final 1/4 as we have seen.

She’s not a two turn horse IMO and I don’t think we’ll ever get to see her run enough to think of her that way. Again, I hope I’m wrong...just trying to be realistic. Do you see Gamine having a long career?

My only point was I’m sure the guy who bought Princess Noor thinks highly of her. Based on her first two she could be any kind. Just seems funny to me to think of a horse in this era as a generational talent when they don’t run enough to warrant it.

[Alabama Stakes]

79 beyer seems a little light for a generational talent . Jackie’s Warrior looks like he is wicked fast. The only part of him the competition sees of him is his ass.

[Alabama Stakes]

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes

79 beyer seems a little light for a generational talent . Jackie’s Warrior looks like he is wicked fast. The only part of him the competition sees of him is his ass.

Juvy winner. But has great turf foot too. He looks the part , but his action is a little funny up front left.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

No...but when a filly who runs by appointment only fails to switch leads at the top of the stretch like she has in her 4 prior races I’m thinking we might not get to see her on track too much longer. I hope I’m wrong, but that was not the same horse the final 1/4 as we have seen.

She’s not a two turn horse IMO and I don’t think we’ll ever get to see her run enough to think of her that way. Again, I hope I’m wrong...just trying to be realistic. Do you see Gamine having a long career?

My only point was I’m sure the guy who bought Princess Noor thinks highly of her. Based on her first two she could be any kind. Just seems funny to me to think of a horse in this era as a generational talent when they don’t run enough to warrant it.

Well, that calls for a determination of how much racing (and achievement) is enough to define a horse among its' peers and historically.

Gamine has had a pretty steady season debuting March 7 and then running on May 5, June 20, July 8, Sept 4 (with pandemic issues affecting the spacing between the first 2 starts). If she is going to turn out to be a one turn horse, then she ran quite OK Friday. Owner Peterson likes the action, so as long as she's healthy, she'll run. Baffert is staying in KY through the first part of KEE Sale next week, so we'll get an update later in the month when he gets back to California (assuming CA is still there). If she's directed towards the F&M Sprint, it will be a corker with her v. Serengeti.



Baffert echoed Gary Young's enthusiasm regarding Noor and her prospects on Monday. And to Dan's point, he specifically discussed the quick turnaround from first start to the Debutante and desire/instructions not to ask too much of her. The Chandelier is too soon (9/26), so I'd guess she trains up to the BC J-Fillies. She'll definitely have to speed it up at KEE and you may not get a read on her until next year.

[Dahoss]

Gamine has made 5 starts through September of her 3 year old year. I don’t need to be Larry Bramlage to figure out she’s had some issues. I think the failure to switch leads until late is a sign of things to come, regardless of how much her owner likes the action.

I don’t think you get the same brilliance from her around two turns that you do one turn. Do you?

I’m sure Baffert thinks Princess Noor is great too. What else is he going to say? When has a trainer or someone who bought a horse come on your show and NOT said something glowing about their horse?